Who has them? In what 15" sizes? (I've been hoping to see the 225/45R15 size become available.) Prices?

Is there any known comparison between them and the 195/50R15 Bridgestone RE-01's?

I'm looking at buying four to be used primarily on the local level, in the SCCA-Detroit Region's TSM class (Street Tire-Street Modified) on what is essentially an STS Neon with about 15 more horsepower and about 100 lbs. less weight. Thanks.

Jim

the 195s have been out for a while, and early reports suggested graining and accelerated wear could occur - opinions varied

the 205s just came out

I 'm hoping Andy Hollis may share some comparative data between the two tires you mention (albeit not those exact sizes)

the 225/45 is allegedly a July item...

205/50-15 is about a half inch wider than a 195/50-15, and a 225 might be a good bit wider, but won't be available until late July according to Toyo.

-Brian

Found this on Andy's write up

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/ne...estone.php

JJ

The sidewall isn't super soft, it is the whole carcus.

I have mine on 15x7.5 rota slipstreams, but they look fine on 15x7 wheels as well.

-Brian

cant say much about these tires but i did find these pictures.

Toyo R1R 195/50/15 on a 15x7 Enkei RPF1 (Left)
Falken Azenis RT615 205/50/15 on a 15x6.5 Konig Renegade (Right)

Does anybody have a product number or catalog number of the 205/50R15 Toyos so I can order a set from my local supplier?

Jim

Buy some, find out.

Other than that, I would buy some and save some money. Everybody knows that if you buy hoosier wets, you'll never be at an event where it rains.

This is absolutely true. I did personal research on the subject; worked like voodoo magic! Good insurance if you hate racing in the wet.

The event immediately after I sold mine was the first rain event I had run in 2 years!!!

Product code is 170030. Hope that helps!

Joe Jordan

I already have some Full tread R1R's for the street. I was hoping they would be comparable the the Hoosier's so I don't have to bring 4 extra wheels.

Thanks, Joe.

why not just use those toyos as your wets? wrong size?

the R1Rs are a lot stickier than the T1Rs...might not be a good idea to mix 'em.

no personal experience, but people seem to agree that the R1Rs work pretty well in the rain.

OK then but I'm not sure what to replace the left front tyre with. Alot of tyre makers seem to not make their best tyres in sizes below 17 or 16" anymore :( I think I need a tyre that grips like the T1-R but has a stiffer sidewall if such a tyre exists.

Here is a picture where you can see how the tyre has rolled over onto that shoulder and worn it down from all the clockwise trackday laps.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii198/ssimbo/tyrewear2001.jpg

why not another T1R?

in the future, you might consider rotating the tires to even out the wear, so you don't end up having to replace one tire.