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16 Apr 2006 03:24 PM
    I have 'remember me' selected. I have to sign in every time I come to the site.
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    16 Apr 2006 04:06 PM
    I'm trying to track this problem down, I'm getting it as well.
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    16 Apr 2006 11:41 PM
    Maybe a timeout on the cookie? Mine expires "today."
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    17 Apr 2006 09:01 AM
    I think this is related to the server move. Most likely the cookies all were forced to expire because the encryption keys are different for the new server. Once you login (from each machine you use) you should be back to normal. If you're seeing otherwise please let me know.
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    17 Apr 2006 10:30 AM
    I've had to sign in every day for a while on the same machine. Might try clearing all the cookies I guess.

    Edit: I'm using Firefox also BTW.

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    17 Apr 2006 11:31 AM

    [QUOTE] I've had to sign in every day for a while on the same machine.

    Me too... Same machine. It started a couple of days ago.

    IE 6.0.2 on XP SP2.

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    17 Apr 2006 12:16 PM
    I just made a change, so everyone will have to signin again, but I think this time it will keep it from occuring daily. So once you signin again you shouldn't have to for a while.
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    18 Apr 2006 07:58 AM

    christoc wrote:
    I just made a change, so everyone will have to signin again, but I think this time it will keep it from occuring daily. So once you signin again you shouldn't have to for a while.

    All appears to be well in cyberland. :)

    --kC

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    18 Apr 2006 08:38 AM
    Yep, worked here also.

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    18 Apr 2006 06:21 PM
    Looks like it is back, working on trying to find a fix
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    18 Apr 2006 06:28 PM
    Kind of like ice mode in the Z. [:P]
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    20 Apr 2006 01:08 AM
    No luck so far, we're finding a problem on the server, just not sure why it's happening yet. It's not SCCAForums.com specific, as it's effecting other sites on the server as well. Hope to have more info in the next day or so.
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    21 Apr 2006 02:34 PM

    Any luck I have had to sign in three times today on the same system.

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    23 Apr 2006 05:23 PM

    (subscribing)

    Yeah, everyone can yell at me for the issue of having to keep signing in. Not Christoc.

    I've just about completed the upgrades, in which the ASPNET AppPool keeps cycling for some reason. I have a trouble ticket open to see what they say.

    Soon, very soon. But throw the tomatos at me for now. :)

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    23 Apr 2006 07:13 PM
    Yeah, what he said ;)
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    eduncan911 wrote:

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    Yeah, everyone can yell at me for the issue of having to keep signing in. Not Christoc.

    I've just about completed the upgrades, in which the ASPNET AppPool keeps cycling for some reason. I have a trouble ticket open to see what they say.

    Soon, very soon. But throw the tomatos at me for now. :)

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    09 May 2006 07:21 PM
    eduncan911 wrote:

    Soon, very soon. But throw the tomatos at me for now. :)

    That's been 16 days of tomatos. Any progress?


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    09 May 2006 08:19 PM
    Had to sign in again.
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    09 May 2006 08:31 PM
    Eric and I are still trying to track this down. a big ole PITA I know, sorry folks.
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    09 May 2006 11:16 PM

    i don't know if this helps, but it seems to be on my system that i stay logged in for 24hrs. after that it's like the cookie is dropped/expired.

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    09 May 2006 11:34 PM
    We're having problems with the application pool on the server resetting, and causing cookies to expire. So we know what the problem is, just not sure how to fix it yet.
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    10 May 2006 08:48 AM

    christoc wrote:
    We're having problems with the application pool on the server resetting, and causing cookies to expire. So we know what the problem is, just not sure how to fix it yet.

    I'm in 'a' mood....

    [TeamRX8]Seems so obvious to me that a simpleton could figure it out.[/TeamRX8]

    [Cole]That's because it's not running on street tires[/Cole]

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    10 May 2006 11:01 AM
    No, No, No.... [Cole]My daughter would have had it fixed right after she won the beauty pageant held at Wimbledon (which she also won)[/Cole]
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    10 May 2006 11:22 AM

    [Lehman]It's hard to scratch yourself while typing your password.[/Lehman]

    [A.Hollis]You people just bitch and moan, but have no idea what's it like to be running things.[/A.Hollis]

    [Carpenter]I'm going to protest the entire site to get this cleared up.[/Carpenter]

    [SEB]Protest Denied ... must be against Chris.[/SEB]

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    10 May 2006 12:10 PM
    Just today the problem finally started annoying me (See also: coffee maker died in the lab...)

    [Cole] To make this work you'll need to allow minor modifications to bring it up to speed of the other servers [/Cole]

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    12 May 2006 02:09 AM
    You know, it's almost like the cookie never gets "refreshed" when I come back to the site. Kind of like, "Do you have an unexpired cookie? Yes? Great!" but it doesn't do the "OK, update the cookie to have a new expiration date" or something.
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    12 May 2006 02:09 PM
    It's definitely an application pool issue on the server.
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    13 May 2006 12:14 AM
    Just another reason that I don't use anything on a server that requires a certain OS... (ducking... ;) )
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    13 May 2006 01:07 PM

    Guys, this isn't isolated to just us or this software. Thousands of administrators worldwide are experiencing this with their Windows 2003 ASP.NET 2.0-equiped servers. Even though the site is running under ASP.NET 1.1.

    It can happen with any asp.net application that uses what is called "Forms Authentication" - such as DNN, CS, and Sharepoint (all of which are having this problem on 1000s of servers).

    It's a massive issue Microsoft is looking into, with no resolution yet. It's all over Google, groups, and dozens of other forums.

    And it's pissing ME off.

    We'll get to the bottom of it, one way or another.

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    18 May 2006 10:21 AM

    I've commited a fix today that may resolve this.

    So sign in (today) and let's see how long it keeps you signed in (> 2 days is what I am looking for).

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    18 May 2006 10:44 AM
    Thanks Eric, we'll keep a tab on this and see how the fix works.
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    18 May 2006 12:31 PM

    Well, it didn't seem to last 3 hours. Although, I sure know my user name and password!! I guess that's a good thing??

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    rtprick wrote:

    Well, it didn't seem to last 3 hours. Although, I sure know my user name and password!! I guess that's a good thing??

    Rick Ruth

    You would have had to re-sign in today after 11 AM CST.

    The changes I made expired all older cookies, so coming back to the site today from earlier (say 10am) would have expired your login that you saved/did at 10am.

    But logging in again now, after 11 AM CST - not just re-visiting, I'm hoping I have nailed it.

    I was able to re-produce the issue at any time (i.e. restart the app pool, the Ticket (cookie) would be invalid). After my applied fix this morning to a few select domains on my server (this is one), I was able to remain logged in after restarting the app pool.

    So I think I nailed it. But, only time will tale. :)

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    18 May 2006 05:31 PM
    Well, I just logged in for my second time since this post went up. So I'm guessing that's a negative. [:(]
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    18 May 2006 05:45 PM
    And I've logged in 3 times now since 11
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    18 May 2006 06:29 PM
    Yeah, fix isn't working.... If anything it's logging me out more frequently now...
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    23 May 2006 05:47 PM

    Ok.

    This is fix #2839235upteenthousand2.

    Let's see what happens now from the PostDate of this post (after you sign-in again after this time).

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    23 May 2006 05:53 PM
    Testing.....
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    24 May 2006 09:08 AM

    Didn't work...

    This is not making any sense.

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    24 May 2006 09:45 PM
    To me it seams to to keep me loged in longer with FireFox then with IE
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    25 May 2006 01:48 PM
    Still logging in every time back. Maybe I should just never leave?
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    25 May 2006 01:52 PM
    At least it's consistent! [:D]
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    25 May 2006 03:37 PM

    mtbprelude wrote:
    Still logging in every time back. Maybe I should just never leave?

    That won't work. The software will log you out. Usually in less than an hour, and sometimes much less.

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    25 May 2006 04:00 PM
    This is becoming a real pain in the ass!!
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    basham wrote:
    This is becoming a real pain in the ass!!

    Trust me, we are working on it. We have a support ticket going with Microsoft now.

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    30 May 2006 09:27 PM

    christoc wrote:
    we are working on it. We have a support ticket going with Microsoft now.

    Sure, MS has it right next to their "fix Millennium Edition..." [:P]

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    30 May 2006 10:27 PM
    I've been signed in for over 48 hours on my home computer using Firefox. Of course, at work using IE, I get kicked out every few minutes.
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    31 May 2006 02:47 PM

    I just made a change. Logged myself out, and logged back in.

    Hoping this will fix it. Time will tell.

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    31 May 2006 03:25 PM
    How many attempts to fix have ya'll made now?[:P]



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    Far too many.

    How many will we make? As many as it takes [:P]

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    31 May 2006 03:58 PM
    Thanks, appreciate the effort.
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    31 May 2006 06:24 PM
    well, it seems like this last change might have done the trick. this is the longest i've remained logged in for in weeks!
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    31 May 2006 06:28 PM

    solo-x wrote:
    well, it seems like this last change might have done the trick. this is the longest i've remained logged in for in weeks!

    shhhhhhhh still waiting to see what happens

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    31 May 2006 06:39 PM
    Also seems to be working for me.

    At the risk of getting excessively geeky -- what was the problem, and what was the fix?
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    31 May 2006 06:51 PM
    A few things. In the web.config file I had to define the machinekeys in two places. Also had to set the timeout limit on the cookie for the asp.net membership provider longer than 60. For some reason it appears that value was ignored before, but some recent update on this new webserver started following that timeout....
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    01 Jun 2006 06:37 AM
    It so far seems to be working for me. Thanks Chris for staying on top of it and getting it resolved!!
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    01 Jun 2006 06:38 AM
    Yep, I was still logged in this morning also.

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    01 Jun 2006 07:59 AM

    Hey! I'm still signed in! :D

    Thanks for fixing it.

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    01 Jun 2006 09:48 AM

    its good both home and work thanks

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    01 Jun 2006 10:04 AM
    It seems to be working for me here as well. It was really a problem when I tried to post and I would get dropped.

    Thanks,
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    01 Jun 2006 10:26 AM
    Wooooohooooo
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    01 Jun 2006 11:09 AM
    yay! Thanks Chris
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    01 Jun 2006 11:16 AM
    Its aaLLIIIIIvve
    Thanks!

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    02 Jun 2006 07:46 PM
    24 hours now. You da man!
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    02 Jun 2006 08:27 PM

    Lets see now, over 30 log in attempts and two password changes and I finally managed to get in TODAY. I had this same issues when I first created the account, not being able to actually GET logged in. My first post to this forum was after nearly an hour of login attempts.

    Just curious here, why would you run this site on a server thats using Microcrap server software? don't you know that Unix/Linux/Apache based servers are far more stable and reliable than servers running on Microcrap?

    Not to mention the minor fact that well over 75% of servers in the world are running non microsoft based server software for a reason (actually it's closer to 90% but we won't split hairs). It works consistently and microsoft software don't.

    Also, an asp based forum is outdated when php based forums are far more reliable, are far easier to configure and run and have so many more template options that using asp is like hunting a bear with a toothpick.

    Ok, now that I have vented my frustration about the login issues I have and offered some information that I am fairly sure you already know.. hope the login issue gets fixed.

    Dragon

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    02 Jun 2006 09:46 PM

    There are no known login issues.

    As far as your MS bashing, bash all you want, but I'm an MS guy, work with MS software day in and day out, and won't be switching anytime soon.

    This isn't an ASP based software package. It's a Microsoft ASP.Net based platform written in C#.

    Check your statistics about your beloved linux, they're probably 5 years old.

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    02 Jun 2006 09:59 PM
    I'm going to IN-N-OUT in Lancaster now just to get your blood really boiling.
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    I really appreciate your hard work in correcting this very annoying problem. I guess that's why we all love you so much. :-)

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    03 Jun 2006 05:20 PM

    Ok maybe there are no known issues. I'm making one known now. If I go up to the top of the page here and click sign in. I am ABSOLUTLY unable to sign in. Period. But if I use this address..

    http://sccaforums.com/login.aspx?ReturnUrl=

    Then I can log in. When I click the sign in link at the top of the page, it does take me to the sign in screen, but after putting my name and password in, it just recycles and does nothing. The address of the sign in screen though, is not the same as the one I just posted above. It's..

    http://www.msscca.org/

    So there is an issue here, although probably a small one as I did find a way around it. As for Linux/Unix/Apache...

    an excerpt from the Apache HTTP webserver site:

    Apache has been the most popular web server on the Internet since April 1996. The November 2005 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/w...urvey.html">Netcraft Web Server Survey found that more than 70% of the web sites on the Internet are using Apache, thus making it more widely used than all other web servers combined.

    This of course was in 2005. Ultimatly thats neither here nor there. each person has their personal favorites and I respect you for your steadfast adherence to the windows server software. For myself, I have found windows to be needlessly cumbersome and ridiculously open to attacks. On my home pc, I run windows, more because the version I run I have spent four years cleaning up and other than name alone, it's not much like windows software anymore. On my server, I run Redhat Linux and the Apache server software.

    Each person has their preference for software, you have yours, I have mine and thats what makes it so fun. Now then, concerning asp.net let me simply say this. Asp is cumbersome from my experience. Not to mention needlessly loading down a systems processors. Maybe windows has improved their product some since I used it, but you know the old saying, Bite me once, and your not going to have the chance to do it again. It was Windows server 2000 and it's horrible and disgusting failures that made me turn to Linux and the Apache server software to run my server with.

    But enough of that lol... There is a problem with sign in, From the looks of it, it's probably something ridiculously simple like a broken link or server call in the code somewhere. I did find a route around it and so for myself the problem is now moot.

    So how about them GT races huh? Anyone watch the races in New York this afternoon?

    Dragon

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    Dragon, what browser?
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    Internet explorer version 6.0.2800.1106

    In other words, a fully updated IE6

    I run Windows 98se because I absolutly hated the way they put xp pro together. Bought the program, loaded it. used it for a year, and decided I liked 98se better so I went back to it.

    Primary reasons...

    XP pro as with all windows software, installs onto your system, un needed programs which, because you have no choice BUT to install them (there are NO options not to install them) your system is far more vulnerable to attack by someone with bad intent.

    Second, 98se while it also installs un needed programs, doesn't try to shut down if you remove them, they are not integrated into the overall operation of the software, making removal, like lobotomizing your computer.

    Third, most new virus's being made, are being designed to attack NT based systems like windows XP, meaning my computer, as time progresses, won't be attacked by the nasty stuff ya'll will get hit with as often.

    fourth and foremost in my mind... I can find system programs in 98 a lot easier than in xp, where it seems they deliberatly tried to stop a person from being able to turn off or delete things by hiding them under rediculously complicated layers of obfuscation (i.e. Favorites are no longer stored under c:/windows/favorites they are now hidden away in documents and settings blah blah blah.)

    And finally. When you install windows xp, it insall itself as a server rather than an operating system. needlessly complicating user requirements to run the system. Not to mention the small fact that running as a server means every time you connect to the internet, your system is being seen AS A SERVER and therefore far more likely to be atacked by a hacker. Now, unless they changed this in the last 4 yrs, and removed this from the coding, which I doubt, no thanks. I don't want my computer being ran as a server. Whether I want it to or not.

    Bill Gates thinks he can tell people what they want, even when they don't want it (ever try to install windows, and tell it NOT to install the internet service stuff like AOL and Compuserv and then after install, STILL find it installed on your system, even though you EXPRESSLY told the install NOT to install it?). Nuff Said.

    As for my server. RedHat Linux and Apache. All the way.

    Don't get me wrong though. I know that XP is getting ready to be beat out by Microsofts newest OS, which will be even more comlicated, less stable, mopre prone to crashes, hyper suceptable to virus's and bill gates will tell the world it's the best OS Microsoft has ever made, and the gullible will buy it because they have been told by God gates that it's the best. And of course, we all know Bill gates is God (or The Anti Christ, depending on who you talk too)

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    Forgive my ranting about Microsoft, I used to be an exceptionally loyal microsoft person, until I realized one thing. you can't buy a system running anything but microsoft on it, unless you go apple/mac. And with many of the comp manufacturing companies, if you delete and install a different OS it voids your warranty right then and there, so while gates may 'claim' he doesn't have a monopoly, try buying a compaq with LINUX or SOLARIS or some other non microsoft OS on it. You can't do it.

    For the most part, if you go buy a new computer, your stuck with what they tell you you need, and I have issues about people telling me what I need, beacsue they 'know whats best for me'. Yeah I know, sounds like a personal problem lol and you would be right. I'm 41 yrs old. I'm big enough now to make my own choices about what I want. Don't need big brother or his nasty little cousins, telling me what I want.

    Thus my angst against Microsoft and most computer makers these days. I build my own systems, I don't buy them ready made).

    Anyway, nuff said and I'll stop whining now.

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    http://www.newegg.com - Build your own. That, and 98SE has way more holes than XP. :)

    On that note, I had to log back in today. On top of that, every now and then I get the white error message.. something like "Request couldnot be processed. The SCCAForums staff has logged this and will be looking into it" on three different occasions.

    1) After logging in on home page, clicking a quick link to a thread I've particiapted in.
    2 & 3) Going into other threads from 'Latests Posts'. I'd click on it, get the error. Click Back in the browser, and then click the link again, and it works.

    --kC

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    The login today was due to the fact I didn't set the timeout on the cookie for very long. I've extended it now, should last quite a while now.

    I'll look into the error logs, see what kind of errors people are getting.

    As for 98SE, I won't even begin to comment on those threads.

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    Eh, eventually I'll have to switch back to xp, a lot of the programs I use every day are now made for the software. And to give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt, they generally do try to fix security and other issues as fast as they can. I'm just not hot on the software as it is now. I don't particularly like having a computer do things I didn't tell it to do. Nor software installing that I specifically told it not to install. Those are more than anything else, my biggest issues with Microsoft software. And as for 98se having more holes than xp, I patched 98 se with all available security patches. When I load xp, I have significantly MORE patches to install. Not that it really matters. I'll eventually be forced to start running xp, which means getting that xp pro disk out and patching the software for 16 hours or better after it's installed.

    *shrugs* thats life in the slow lane LOL

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    http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/software...180287.php

    "Not huge news, but if you’re anything like me, you’re probably still triple-booting Windows 98, 98 SE, and ME just for the old-timey masochistic thrill of it all. Well, it appears that Microsoft will officially stop supporting these operating systems on July 11 and they all contain a security hole so big that it will make pr0n spyware problems seems as innocuous as an errant system clock. These OSes are extremely vulnerable through TCP port 139, so you should button things up tight and wear a conundrum when using 98 machines.

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    But, Wait, There's More:

    The new MS Vista sounds like more fun (irony alert).

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    As you probably know, Microsoft's Windows team sits at the top of an enormous economic pyramid whose base encompasses millions of people all over the world. A new version of Windows means that all those people will buy new computers to run it. Those sales provide enormous boosts to PC companies like Dell and HP. Their company stock climbs. Investors get rich.

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    A new version of Windows may also require a new version of your favorite software program. Millions of people buy new copies of thousands of programs, triggering yet another economic wave.

    Windows Vista, the upcoming new version of Windows, has been delayed, delayed and delayed again; Microsoft is now aiming to ship it to consumers in January 2007. The company has taken a P.R. beating with these delays. But I'm with Microsoft here; they say, better to get it right than to rush out something that's not ready for prime time.

    Last week, Microsoft at least nailed down the Windows Vista system requirements (or "sys-reqs," as the Windows team calls them). You can read the full document here, but here's the gist. To run all features of Windows Vista, your PC needs, at the very least:

    * 1 GHz processor.

    * 1 GB of memory.

    * A graphics processor that runs Windows Aero2. (What does that mean? You got me; the Microsoft Web site above explains, but in pure technospeak. Just be sure to ask if the graphics board qualifies when you're buying a new PC.)

    * 128 MB of graphics memory.

    * 40 GB of hard drive capacity with 15 GB free; a DVD drive, speakers, and Internet access.

    Needless to say, these are minimums; more and faster is better.

    Now, you'll be able to run Vista on a lesser machine (click the link above), but it won't be attractive. The Mac OS X-like visual design scheme called Aero, which features glass-like transparent window edges and other niceties, will drop away. (Good luck to people who intend to write books about Windows Vista--I'm among them--who have to figure out how to illustrate two completely different looks for Windows.)

    Why am I bringing this up now, seven months before Vista? Because you might intend to buy a new computer in the meantime, and you'll be kicking yourself if you buy one now that's not capable of running Vista. You need to think ahead.

    So how is Vista looking, now that it's hit Beta version 2?

    The controversy is already swirling, but I can tell you a few things that you have to look forward to.

    First of all, it's great-looking and filled with nifty features. Both the looks and the new features owe a heavy debt to Apple's Mac OS X. ("Some people will say some of the features are kissing cousins to features they've seen elsewhere, and that is true," Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer admitted to eWeek.com. "I'm not apologetic about the fact that we...study and learn and benefit from the work others have done.")

    One huge advance comes from the tiniest little change: a new system font that just gives the whole affair a cleaner, more refined, more modern look.

    Windows will be a LOT more secure; Microsoft realizes that the eyes of the world are upon it in this regard. The whole virus-spyware thing has spun out of control on Microsoft's watch, and the company says that it has hunkered down to fix things in a serious way.

    Unfortunately, making Windows more secure also makes Windows even naggier than it already is. Expect to be interrupted far more often with dialog boxes asking if it's OK to install this or download that.

    This will be annoying, yes, but also reassuring, because these are moments of vulnerability that used to pass without your knowledge. For virus and spyware writers, these blockades that now require your personal OK. (For one columnist's take on this phenomenon, see this Computerworld story.)

    Some long-needed fixes are coming, too. Windows's notoriously confusing and sometimes flaky standby/hibernate/shutdown routine has been elegantly simplified. Now the basic "I'm not using it" condition is called Sleep. It keeps the PC using minimal power but in a ready-to-wake condition--but if you don't, in fact, wake it for several days (or whatever period you specify), it drops into a deeper slumber that uses no power. Badly written programs that used to wake up your closed laptop in order to display some dialog box (the "hot laptop" syndrome, and the reason Windows laptops often arrive at your destination with a dead battery) will be summarily shut up.

    Note, by the way, that there will be at least FIVE different versions of Windows, each containing a different set of features. The corporate versions won't have Media Center (TV-recording) features, for example, and the basic versions won't have Tablet PC (handwriting-recognition) features. Once again, good luck to book authors!

    I've ordered a new PC that can run Vista (the beta) myself, and I'll be reporting on more details as soon as it arrives. Meanwhile, don't buy a PC without checking the sys-reqs.

    P.S.--Last week, I reviewed a flaky GPS system given to me by a relative. Many of you wrote in fury and disgust that I "publicly trashed" a gift that someone spent a lot of money on.

    Fear not; the relative's feelings are intact. This person has no Internet access and received only the warmest praise and thanks from my wife and me. My wife (the relative's relative) approved the column and is confident that my writeup will remain our little secret.

    P.P.S.--The new Pogue blog (http://nytimes.com/pogue) is amazing. Not the blog itself, but rather, the part YOU write. I found your comments in response to two of the entries, in particular, truly useful and well-informed. You answered two reader questions: "Can I transfer my old 8mm movies to high definition?" and "How can I stop junk faxes for good?"

    Check it out.

    This week's Pogue's Posts blog.

    Visit David Pogue on the Web at DavidPogue.com.

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    Dragon, what browser?


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