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Last Post 15 Jan 2001 02:23 PM by  Mike Engelke
Transponders
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Pat
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29 Dec 2000 02:06 PM
    What is everyone hearing about the use of transponders in CenDiv this year? For both regionals and nationals?
    Peter Olivola
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    03 Jan 2001 07:44 AM
    Basically, Area 5 (western half of the division) is going to transponders for all events starting with selected classes (fiberglass bodies) and moving to all classes this season. Check the CenDiv website for details.

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Pat:
    [b]What is everyone hearing about the use of transponders in CenDiv this year? For both regionals and nationals?[/b]
    Derrick Pewter 99 SS
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    03 Jan 2001 05:55 PM
    Um, I hate to be a schmuck, but are we talking about transponders in the dictionary sense of the word?

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    Peter Olivola
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    04 Jan 2001 06:07 AM
    Transponders as in AMB timing and scoring transponders to automatically record a car's laps completed and time crossing start/finish. Combined with the timing and scoring software it produces lap times and finish positions for practice/qualifying/race.

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Derrick Pewter 99 SS:
    [b]Um, I hate to be a schmuck, but are we talking about transponders in the dictionary sense of the word?

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    David Dewhurst
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    04 Jan 2001 08:57 AM
    Derrick, for a litle more technical knowledge on AMB transponders go dig around at the AMB timing site amb.nl/.
    Flagger X
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    05 Jan 2001 02:53 PM
    Isn't it time we adopted transponders? The old system works, but modernity is better. Ever sat on a grid, waiting for the five because T&S hadn't finished with the large group ahead of you? Ever waited all day for your results, or disputed your qualifying times. Okay, grid locations will always be protested, but it is time to move into the 21st century.

    With transponders, we don't have to round up armies of T&S workers, even with backups. Results are more timely, and there are less headaches.

    Okay, $300 bucks is a fair amount of money, particularly for those of us racing on a small displacement wallet. [say, Me!] But we spend that much readily on tires, and other go-fast stuff. Compared to the other costs in racing, transporders aren't that bad. Tthe technology is mature, with transponders of various from having been in service for forty years.

    I do think that regions/tracks ought to offer some kind of service plans, that permit them to be hot swapped at the track, or affordably rebuilt if damaged in close racing. But the time for transponders has come.
    CPRACER
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    05 Jan 2001 06:33 PM
    Transponder's Arnt 100% You Will More People In Timing And Scoring To Tape And Make Shure The System Is Working Accuratly We Use Transponder's At A Local Go Cart Race For JA And Have Problem's With Accuracy ! So We Still Have To Manauly Time And Count.
    And Transponder's DONT SELL MEMBERSHIP'S !!!!
    Brad
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    06 Jan 2001 04:49 AM
    What he said.

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by CPRACER:
    [b]Transponder's Arnt 100% You Will More People In Timing And Scoring To Tape And Make Shure The System Is Working Accuratly We Use Transponder's At A Local Go Cart Race For JA And Have Problem's With Accuracy ! So We Still Have To Manauly Time And Count.
    And Transponder's DONT SELL MEMBERSHIP'S !!!!
    Brad [/b]
    Flagger X
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    11 Jan 2001 12:14 PM
    CPRacer's comments on transponders are quite false. Okay, they aren't 100% accurate [nothing is], but they are more accurate the people. And the comment that you will need more people is simply not true, by GCR you need five people as backups, and they work very well.

    Transponders are rather easy to install on GT type, SRF and formula cars, which have pro equivalents. They are harder to install on stock body cars because they need a direct line of sight to the ground.

    It amazes me that a group of people who readily spend $300 for a new tire compound or some other part, are so often unwilling to do something that will make the workers lives much easier.
    Max Lake
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    11 Jan 2001 07:45 PM
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Flagger X:
    [b] And the comment that you will need more people is simply not true, by GCR you need five people as backups, and they work very well.

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    It is very true, more people are needed when transponders are used.

    The transponder system is in _addition_ to what the GCR mandates, nothing is replaced.
    Mike Engelke
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    15 Jan 2001 02:23 PM
    Well here goes. Chicago and Milwaukee Region will roll out the use of transponder beginning with the quad drivers school.

    It will save the drivers money in the long run. Why? Economics. We committed to AMB now to get the FREE equipment in exchange for selling them now. If we chose to wait like most regions are doing, it will cost over $16,000 to get started. Drivers will pay for this. It gives us the advantage of knowing what we are doing when they become mandatory.

    Hope this helps.

    Mike Engelke
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