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SP Re-Org V.2 is in Fastrack
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leepic
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24 May 2011 05:09 PM
    Has all the cars/classes listed.... :-)
    mlane350z
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    24 May 2011 06:23 PM
    Lee, bring the crazy beemer out of retirement some time this year! I'd love to see this proposal come to fruition.
    DrJones_CMR
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    25 May 2011 05:38 AM
    Hey guys you forgot about me!
    It's like the BSP rapture happend and I was left behind!
    :P
    scardeal
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    25 May 2011 11:17 AM
    Does it supercede the previous proposal?
    solo-x
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    25 May 2011 11:27 AM
    scardeal wrote:
    Does it supercede the previous proposal?

    Yes. It would be a waste to propose it otherwise, and combining the two would be a bit of a nightmare. [:)]

    solo-x
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    25 May 2011 11:28 AM
    DrJones_CMR wrote:
    Hey guys you forgot about me!
    It's like the BSP rapture happend and I was left behind!
    :P

    ROFL. Your car can do it!

    scardeal
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    26 May 2011 09:14 AM
    This carving of the street prepared might be even better for me... I won't have to try and deal with a frankenBoxster, if one were to get created.

    So says the guy who's on a woefully underprepped 350z...
    TeamRX8
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    21 Jun 2011 10:02 PM
    The SPAC better re-evaluate the BMW E46 situation in DSP. There is no one event scenario. The E46 revolution is coming to DSP and it's both fast and expensive.
    AutoX Z
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    22 Jun 2011 09:03 AM
    I also fail to see the logic in burying the 370Z in "ASP".
    snaponbob
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    22 Jun 2011 09:27 AM
    DrJones_CMR wrote:
    Hey guys you forgot about me!
    It's like the BSP rapture happend and I was left behind!
    :P

    Andy "fixed" THAT, didn't he?

    talon95
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    22 Jun 2011 10:13 AM
    snaponbob wrote:
    DrJones_CMR wrote:
    Hey guys you forgot about me!
    It's like the BSP rapture happend and I was left behind!
    :P

    Andy "fixed" THAT, didn't he?

    Looks like you guys successfully deflected the GT-R at least. I couldn't find anything in there about the proposed GT-R to SS move though. Guess we'll see if we're as lucky.

    Dave G.

    scardeal
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    22 Jun 2011 11:18 AM
    So, what's different between this month's fastTrack revision and last month's?
    snaponbob
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    22 Jun 2011 12:33 PM
    scardeal wrote:
    So, what's different between this month's fastTrack revision and last month's?

    Nothing. Maybe that just wanted to shake the tree again.

    WRX Mundi
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    22 Jun 2011 12:54 PM
    scardeal wrote:
    So, what's different between this month's fastTrack revision and last month's?

    From a cursory glance, mostly fairly small changes. They may be important small changes however.

    The Porsche entries are, IMO, much clearer and will be a lot easier to figure out. The "911 (3.6L air-cooled, non-turbo)" line is gone completely, the new ones consistently use the 964, 993, 996, and 997 terms together with years, and quite a few popular cars like the 996 and 997's finally get a line of their own instead of NOC. Whether they are properly classed I'm not going to tackle -- it looks ok to me but there are so many models, special editions, etc. But it's way easier to understand than it was before and should be much nicer for helping new people class their cars.

    • Porsche pre-2001 turbos moved from SSP to ASP
    • Porsche 993 moved from SSP to BSP
    • Ferrari 348 gets added to the collection in ASP
    • Mazdaspeed Miata moved from ASP to BSP
    • Porsche 996 and 997 moved from BSP (via NOC) to ASP
    • All Toyota 91-95 MR2s in ASP (removing confusing double entry in BSP
    scardeal
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    23 Jun 2011 10:32 AM
    Aren't the regular maitas in CSP faster than bsp already? Doesn't that make yet another class that a miata will dominate?
    James L
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    23 Jun 2011 11:23 AM
    scardeal wrote:
    Aren't the regular maitas in CSP faster than bsp already? Doesn't that make yet another class that a miata will dominate?

    But they get to UD/BD a powerful engine(01+ VVT 1.8L) into a super-light body shell(NA, etc), and use all the other UD/BD stuff to get weight down further.

    The MSM will certainly have more power than the current CSP miatas, but it should weigh substantially more. *dunno*

    SmokingTires
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    23 Jun 2011 12:46 PM
    James L wrote:

    The MSM will certainly have more power than the current CSP miatas, but it should weigh substantially more. *dunno*

    MSM are gearing limited. I believe 2nd gear tops out at 47mph.

    WRX Mundi
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    23 Jun 2011 01:25 PM
    The MSM is already in BSP and has been for a while. It hasn't been dominating from what I see. The MSM bit isn't changing anything from today: it still competes against the S2000, RX-8, and Corvettes. They, and the other cars left in BSP, no longer have to compete against the Evos and Solstices. I suspect the Corvettes and M3s are the big winners, not the Miatas.
    Corey Ridgick
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    23 Jun 2011 01:25 PM

    At a time when almost every Street Prepared class struggles to get 5 cars to show up for a national event, I fail to see the logic in adding yet another class. I must be missing something.

    Oh I figured it out, there are at least 20-30 competitors waiting to run cars that were buried in the old structure.

    scardeal
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    23 Jun 2011 01:59 PM
    WRX Mundi wrote:
    The MSM is already in BSP and has been for a while. It hasn't been dominating from what I see. The MSM bit isn't changing anything from today: it still competes against the S2000, RX-8, and Corvettes. They, and the other cars left in BSP, no longer have to compete against the Evos and Solstices. I suspect the Corvettes and M3s are the big winners, not the Miatas.

    I didn't realize that...


    Corey Ridgick wrote:


    At a time when almost every Street Prepared class struggles to get 5 cars to show up for a national event, I fail to see the logic in adding yet another class. I must be missing something.


    Oh I figured it out, there are at least 20-30 competitors waiting to run cars that were buried in the old structure.


    Actually, locally (SE Michigan) we've been having a quite healthy BSP. I wonder if it's due to NOT having lots of STIs and Evos.

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