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Last Post 19 Nov 2012 06:59 PM by  irish44j
$1k cars for Rallycross?
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ToasterDriver
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19 Nov 2011 04:47 PM

    I ran my first Rallycross event last weekend (since SOLO season ended) in a rental Ford Probe our division has for use, and LOVED IT!

    So, I'm searching craigslist for $1k cars for next Spring. Toyota fan, so thinking MR2, 80's Celica or Corolla. Maybe an RX-7 or VW, even an old Datsun. Pretty much staying import if possible.

    Any good ideas? Other places to look besides craigslist?

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    19 Nov 2011 07:12 PM
    If you have a tow vehicle and trailer for hauling to events, you can probably find something in a local scrap yard priced by the pound. Half of the cars at our local Rallycross events seem to come from there, and go back for trade-ups every few events when they break. You might also want to check with local repair shops, as around here they all seem to have an abandoned car or two left behind by an owner who didn't want to pay for repairs. They can get a title via mechanic's lien if you want to be above-board.....
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    21 Nov 2011 05:42 PM

    The first gen MR2 was a good platform for me a few years back. Has weight on the rear wheels for better traction than most RWD cars. Fit some pretty monster tires without modification too. I've seen several RX7s beening sucessful at a regional level, with no reason they can't be at a national level (just haven't seen too many try).

    Think about your local classes though. At a national level you have rear wheel drive classes, at regional levels the FWD and RWD classes are often combined into "2wd", where you'll be at a big disadvantage with most of your wish list being RWD cars.

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    gary p
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    21 Nov 2011 11:22 PM
    1st generation Mazda Protege. Either 1.8L engine (twin cam or SOHC) has decent torque, and even the base DX trim has a rear sway bar so you get decent rotation on dirt with a little Scandanvian flick. Pretty competitive Stock FWD car IMHO. Also, $1000 should land you one in nicer condition than any of the other cars you mentioned that might sell for the same price.
    woodrufj
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    22 Nov 2011 04:58 PM
    gary p wrote:
    1st generation Mazda Protege.

    AKA Ford Escort. Probably similar, but lighter than the Ford Probe you drove.

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    22 Nov 2011 05:55 PM
    Miata with roll bar!
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    22 Nov 2011 06:17 PM
    woodrufj wrote:
    gary p wrote:
    1st generation Mazda Protege.

    AKA Ford Escort. Probably similar, but lighter than the Ford Probe you drove.

    Jay W

    An Escort GT of the 90-94 vintage, maybe. The run-of-the-mill Escorts shared the same platform as the Protege but had crappier engines and much less pleasing handling dynamics.

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    22 Nov 2011 07:01 PM
    mcolangelo2005 wrote:
    Miata with roll bar!

    Only if it has the hard-top with it. Pop-top vehicles are dis-allowed in RallyX.

    ToasterDriver
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    23 Nov 2011 08:56 PM

    Thanks so far! thought I had a Toyota MR2 lined up for $250 but he stopped answering his phone/emails. Think he realized he was way under priced. Dammit.

    Also looking at Merkur's, Tiburon's maybe. I had a 93 Talon years ago that might have been perfect. Hmm... Checking craigslist every day.

    Any thoughts on Nissans? I see a few Pulsar NX's and a 200SX that look interesting. (More in it for the fun, less about points/technical)

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    01 Dec 2011 04:56 PM
    We have a guy in our region who runs a Datsun 510 with great success.

    FWD will be faster, RWD will be more fun. Just find something you like and get out there. Don't put too much thought into it. RallyCross is soo much fun!
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    19 Dec 2011 10:00 PM
    Ended up finding a '87 Toyota MR2 in good shape for $2K. I have all Winter to tinker with it & get set for the season. Now I'm interested in tires. I keep hearing about snow tires, then I hear that "Rallycross" tires are even better than snow's. The hunt is on.
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    19 Dec 2011 11:38 PM
    ToasterDriver wrote:
    Ended up finding a '87 Toyota MR2 in good shape for $2K. I have all Winter to tinker with it & get set for the season. Now I'm interested in tires. I keep hearing about snow tires, then I hear that "Rallycross" tires are even better than snow's. The hunt is on.

    Snow tires are great - Rally tires can be expensive, though. Lassa seems to be the best compromise of longevity/grip/price.

    http://rally-tire.com/lassa.html

    The "hot" deal would be to find someone selling used. That's what I did - got a set of 2-event-use tires AND wheels for less than about what a new set of Lassa's would cost, with shipping.

    Keep your ear to the ground, deals are out there to be had.

    In the meanwhile, snow tires bought in the springtime are the word of the day (closeout on tire rack or discount tire).

    GotCone?
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    27 Dec 2011 02:29 PM
    Just start with some Firestone Winterforce snow tires, then later you can move to better tires if you feel they are really holding you back.
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    27 Dec 2011 03:09 PM
    I did my first Rallycross in January and was hooked! My 1991 Civic DX on Firestone Winterforces was a pretty good combo to start with.
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    18 Nov 2012 04:32 PM
    Stock class has to run DOT tires correct?
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    19 Nov 2012 06:59 PM

    Don't forget BMW e30s. Can be found in running shape all over the place for under $1k. Parts are cheap, the cars are extremely sturdy, huge aftermarket in used performance parts, ton of engine swap options for cheap, and they run pretty well with the RX7s locally. And they are REALLY easy to work on. We had 6 e30s with 12 different drivers running this season. Mine went full season in MR with no mechanical issues, breakdowns, or damage. Plus the 4-cyl earlier cars sit nice and high even stock. I think my skidplate hit one thing all season long on the big courses at Summit Point.

    Anyhow, they pop up constantly in the DC area for $700 or so. Plus they have huge trunks and backseats to carry your gear. I fit five rally tires, a floor jack, two jackstands, and a toolbox in the trunk of mine.


    (side note: my daily driver is a WRX. e30 is much more fun to drive in anger :) )

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