AutoX Z wrote:
The 370z makes a great CS car and I will continue to lobby to get it moved from ASP to BSP over the next few years.
I think 370Z is only CS car that runs ASP? I tried appealing this classing decision as well. Way I look at it the 370z wouldn't be as much as a class favorite in BSP as the EVO is in ASP. It's a fatter car than 350z too.
Whether this was actually a factor or not, none of the cars listed in new BSP are as *new* as the 370. Closest are some TT models that rolled out in 2006 (i'm pretty sure the TTS isn't part of that listing, could be wrong, would love to hear the support anyway), and the M Roadster was a 2006 model. The other JDM's were updates within the same car, not a *new* car with a new engine.
I couldn't tell you that's the philosophy, but the local SP builds are typically out of warranty cars, and ones that are cheaper than the 370 as a starting point. If I was talking potential, I don't think the 370 would be at the top of new BSP even, but possibly pretty close. For classing they have to weight the unknowns since no one has built the SP 370 to it's fullest yet, the precedent of when cars move around, and whether the negative unknowns are outweighed by participation. I'd personally say let them get built and within BSP, but I don't believe there'd be many built out 370's to support the precedent. I'd personally go with the 1 inch narrower and MUCH cheaper 350 build if I really wanted to put that much into a Nissan Z SP build. And in general i don't think it's that bad to have cars in general have 3-4 years development time in the market (not neccesarily in the autocross world) before they get placed down where they should. It's always easier to move down instead of move up.
I was on the way to buidling SP 370Z last year. I started with a 2010 Nismo. I put lightweight aluminum hat rotors and Brembo race calipers, lightweight cats, OSG LSD, Lightweight 18x10.5 inch wheels with 315 Hoosiers, Progress front bar, JRZ club sports, intakes, High Flow Cats, adjustable suspension arms, lightweight PC680 battery. In this trim it was schooled by BSP Boxster with a Cayman S motor and EVO at 2011 National tour.. It ran head to head with BSP 350Z's in the class. Car was about 3150 lbs at that point and made about 310 WHP. Granted we had major abs ice mode issues but by our last runs we were working around that issue be braking earlier and smoother. Im a medium level driver - not the fastest for sure but not slowest either. For reference I ran my old FP boxster around West Course around 66 Seconds at Nationals last year.
Last month I put recaro seats and momo race steering wheel in the car. Not a huge weight savings in a Nismo. I have long tube headers to install, uprev tuning, lightweight fly wheel, lightweight pullies and belt that may get the motor to 340 WHP best case. Car might get down to 2950 lbs. If I pull AC and stereo. 30 WHP from my current levels with free flowing intakes, exhaust and Nismo cat back are realistic. I still dont see 370Z being an ASP contender but wont stop me from building it to best of my ability. Although Im considering throwing in the towel and just building forced induction 370Z SSM car as I see ASP as hopeless. At least in SSM i'd have a slow 600 HP rocket ship.
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