Taylor and Chris - I failed to realize that the 45 in 245/45/17 is a percentage of the tires overall width, not an actual measurement. This is my fault. Thank you taylor for reminding me of this. I do however, know that more than a few Civics with the HFP suspension run this size tire with only minor rubbing on the passenger side inner fender liner at full turn.
So yes Gene, I have done my homework on these, but I do appreciate your comments and know you are looking out for me.
I to am worried about the roll, initially I was not, however I decided to dig deeper and deeper into the bowels of my Civic website and finally found what I was looking for, complaints of people who said rolling was an issue. Initially I could not find these complaints, which is why I wanted these tires, but I think Chris I am going to have to back out of it.
I hope this doesn't leave a bad taste in your mouth, I almost never back out of a deal, but because the only other wheels I have are 7.5" and guady chrome, I refuse to put them on my car until I can have them powdercoated.