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2017 Camaro SS 1LE
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Z3papa
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20 Nov 2016 09:41 AM
I'd expect it to land in BS which may be a good mix with the non Z06 Vettes, the M2, and a few other new entrants.
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20 Nov 2016 03:11 PM

Posted By Z3papa on 19 Nov 2016 10:19 PM
So the old 1LE which you had which weighed in 250-300 lbs more than the current gen Camaro was competitive but lost on the now wider RE71R's to the current Camaro on much thinner wheels/tires and you really suggest that if you put much wider wheels/tires on the current gen which is much lighter, it would not be a class buster. Glad to know that Probst proved this completely wrong when he took the current 2017 1LE on the track and beat the prior gen Z28 times.

Not sure where the 250-300 lighter figure comes from, my 2015 1le is 100 heavier than the posted weight on the 2017 1LE on the Motor Trend test.  The 2017 1le posted similar times at Laguna Seca as the 5Gen Z28, but was also 3 seconds slower than the Z28 in the Lighting Lap at VIR.    I have a 2017 1LE on order, it shouldn't be FS, hoping for BS.



JRL
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28 Nov 2016 09:18 PM
December Fastrack is out, says they need to review more data before classing this car. 
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28 Nov 2016 11:43 PM
Posted By JRL on 28 Nov 2016 09:18 PM
December Fastrack is out, says they need to review more data before classing this car. 

Link please.  I only see the November Fastrack.

 


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MatthewAMEL
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30 Nov 2016 06:14 PM
Greetings, all.

1st post. I found this forum while searching for classing information on the 2017 1LE.

Any idea what 'need more data' means? While the season 2016 season is over here in Orlando, the 2017 season will start in January.

Doesn't seem like a lot of time for the board to gather data.

Both BS and FS have really good drivers in my region, so no matter which one, it'll be a great season.
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08 Dec 2016 05:03 PM

Now that Car & Driver has also tested the '17 SS 1LE, the regular SS looks surprisingly close, given that the 1LE has significantly better oem tires, wheel width advantage and the e-diff.  Initially, my gut feeling was BS maybe AS, but based on the attached, should it maybe stay in F?

 

Waiting for V6 1LE instrument data.  I think that will be interesting.

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JRL
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09 Dec 2016 06:34 PM
They'll probably put it in AS w/ the GT500 and GT350 Mustangs. I have one on order, I don't think there is any way it will be FS, BS will be the best place to at least have a chance to compete, but probably will be AS .
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10 Dec 2016 12:16 AM
Well I don't see AS or BS both classes have vetts. With wider wheels and 800 lb less weight and more HP than the camaro. I understand putting the full race version of the camaro, The ZL1, Z28... yes the 1Le is basically the camaro track pack. Now that they are out... the actual numbers show that the new 1LE is about 100lb lighter than the Old 1le. When the ss and the 1le went head to head the 1le barely edged it out. So that is the real data. It definitely doesn't scream over dog. I tested one out and it doesn't seem much different than the ss. In fact I'm keeping my ss because there is not enough difference to notice.
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10 Dec 2016 01:09 AM

Posted By mcynet on 10 Dec 2016 12:16 AM
Well I don't see AS or BS both classes have vetts. With wider wheels and 800 lb less weight and more HP than the camaro. I understand putting the full race version of the camaro, The ZL1, Z28... yes the 1Le is basically the camaro track pack. Now that they are out... the actual numbers show that the new 1LE is about 100lb lighter than the Old 1le. When the ss and the 1le went head to head the 1le barely edged it out. So that is the real data. It definitely doesn't scream over dog. I tested one out and it doesn't seem much different than the ss. In fact I'm keeping my ss because there is not enough difference to notice.

 

I think the SS and the 1LE could be close on the autox course, but the 2017 1LE was touted to be 3 seconds faster on track than the 2016 SS and  it was 3 seconds at Laguna Seca and and  over six seconds faster at VIR, so on track there is a big difference.  If it ends up in FS, I think it will be the car to have.  



lost won
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10 Dec 2016 01:58 PM
Just wish SAC and SEB would do something; even if it's wrong, so that we can plan for 2017.
What "real world data" do they expect to see in the winter? I don't think ice racing is relevant to autocross.
Or are we waiting to see what the car magazine editors think? Give us a break.
Throw the dart at the board, and publish a decision.
Hello?  It's getting late.  Please...
JRL
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10 Dec 2016 02:17 PM
It better be in the next Fastrack
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10 Dec 2016 07:36 PM
Posted By lost won on 10 Dec 2016 01:58 PM
Just wish SAC and SEB would do something; even if it's wrong, so that we can plan for 2017.
What "real world data" do they expect to see in the winter? I don't think ice racing is relevant to autocross.
Or are we waiting to see what the car magazine editors think? Give us a break.
Throw the dart at the board, and publish a decision.
Hello?  It's getting late.  Please...
As of 2 weeks ago, I couldn't find one at a dealer in my area.  Maybe they actually want to see one?

JRL
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11 Dec 2016 11:53 PM
I don't think "seeing" one will do much good unless it's on a track or autox course.
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16 Dec 2016 04:41 PM

New to the forum, but very interested in this. I just ordered a square set of 19x10 wheels but I'm holding off on tires since we're all unsure of where the 1LE will land.

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16 Dec 2016 08:03 PM

 

Well the latest Preliminary Solo Rules are posted for 2017 and no mention of a 2017 1LE.  Guess you'll have to wait until 2017.  Or (as mentioned) until someone actual competes in one of these things.

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17 Dec 2016 05:06 PM
Posted By twistedwankel on 16 Dec 2016 08:03 PM

 

Well the latest Preliminary Solo Rules are posted for 2017 and no mention of a 2017 1LE.  Guess you'll have to wait until 2017.  Or (as mentioned) until someone actual competes in one of these things.



You can't change wheel width in Street Classes, gotta be 10 inch front/11 inch rear on 2017 1LE for Street Class
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17 Dec 2016 05:07 PM
tx6g1LE
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17 Dec 2016 05:12 PM
I was under the impression you couldn't go larger not smaller?
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17 Dec 2016 07:56 PM

Posted By Cody on 17 Dec 2016 05:12 PM
I was under the impression you couldn't go larger not smaller?

 

You can go  + 1 or - 1 inch in diameter but must retain OEM wheels widths 



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