s1mpsons
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| 18 Aug 2010 08:44 AM |
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Has anyone tested for performance differences in the rain comparing a full tread Toyo R1R versus a Hoosier Wet? Does anyone think R1R is a viable option for the National Championships in an R-Comp class?
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Ralt25
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| 18 Aug 2010 09:59 AM |
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I can't imagine they will be close to the Hoosier Wets. The tread compound is 140 which is real hard for a rain tire. |
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JBrettHowell
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| 18 Aug 2010 10:13 AM |
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Plus Hoosier does not pay contingency if it rains and you switch from A6's to Toyos...if that is a consideration. |
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s1mpsons
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| 18 Aug 2010 10:21 AM |
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I read a post here by strano that him and Ian Baker tested an R1R was softer than a Hoosier wet. Contingency is nice, but I want to save money too.
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GRMPer
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| 18 Aug 2010 10:28 AM |
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Hey funny, I just tested the R1R vs the Direzza, the Contact ExtremeContact DW and a real R-compound rain tire. Unfortunately, the results won't be public until the November issue of GRM. |
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boxboy
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| 18 Aug 2010 01:54 PM |
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W710. I'm a bit biased, but I doubt any DOT tire is faster that it in the wet. -Andy
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Andy Hollis
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| 18 Aug 2010 04:11 PM |
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s1mpsons wrote:I read a post here by strano that him and Ian Baker tested an R1R was softer than a Hoosier wet. Contingency is nice, but I want to save money too.
Soft does not equal fast, especially static durometer readings (as opposed to dynamic temps taken while the car is in a turn via data acquisition). Compounding is much more complex than that. And then there's the whole deal with tread design and evacuation, etc. --Andy |
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fastmike
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| 18 Aug 2010 06:48 PM |
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I am going to put my vote in:
NO QUESTION that the W710 is the fastest in true WET and RAINING conditions.
Next up, Toyo full tread and very close behind is the Hoho Wet
Did I mention how fast the Kumho is?
Truly amazing.
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GRMPer
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| 19 Aug 2010 05:47 AM |
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Unfortunately, the W710 was not available in the size we tested (225/45R17) |
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SIMMONS-RACING
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| 27 Aug 2010 08:51 AM |
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I would use a Full tread R1R in the wet/rain over a Hoosier Wet any day! The R1R works good in the pouring rain, and just a wet surface. The Hoosier Wet needs pouring rain to work the best.
I have had some Very Fast times in the wet with the Toyo's on a ST and STS car.
The Only downfall is not being able to win some Hoosiers.
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s1mpsons
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| 08 Aug 2011 06:29 PM |
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I am still struggling with my same question from last year, R1R or Hoosier W6?
Also, how do you determine optimal tire size for wet racing? Is wider better? In dry I run 285f/315r on a RWD ~400whp car. What do you all recommend (besides dialing back the power) in the rain conditions?
Thanks!
-Jake
www.HamfistRacing.com
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TeamRX8
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| 11 Aug 2011 02:28 AM |
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I was never impressed with the Hoosier Wet and wouldn't hesitate to use the Toyo R1R in its place.
PS: werd to yur muther, tread wear rating don't mean squat |
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jdrop
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| 11 Aug 2011 01:51 PM |
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With rain tires, don't a lot of people run slightly narrower, for getting more heat into a smaller surface?
FWIW, the new H20 Wets are supposed to be eons better. |
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jdrop
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| 11 Aug 2011 01:51 PM |
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With rain tires, don't a lot of people run slightly narrower, for getting more heat into a smaller surface?
FWIW, the new H20 Wets are supposed to be eons better. |
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SCCAForums Staff
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| 11 Aug 2011 03:15 PM |
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I ran W710 Wets at Mid-Ohio... and was thoroughly impressed. Don't have any experience with the Toyo's... but I'd expect it to be about as competitive as their 'race tire' ;) |
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