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Last Post 21 Jan 2001 06:22 PM by  JJTheSubeDriver
So... Who else can't wait for the new Kumho's?
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    03 Jan 2001 08:06 PM
    The email I received from Kumho said that they wouldn't be available until the spring of 2001. I couldn't wait. I ordered the 225/45-13 Hoosiers. I like that Kumho is offering more sizes for the small diameter wheels though.

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    04 Jan 2001 06:10 AM
    What are the highlights of the new Kumhos? Technical specs, etc.? I see they are offering a slick now too, as well as their DOT tire, the V700?

    The last discussion I heard/followed on Kumho V700s compared the 99 production to the 00 production and seemed to suggest that the 00 tires wore out faster.

    I've got three sets right now. I believe they may be all 99s. One set is almost gone. One set has 25 runs on them, and one set has not seen an event.



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    04 Jan 2001 06:55 AM
    Well, my V700s wore out in two weekends this year. Actually cost me two points on the last day because they went from decent to corded in three laps.

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    04 Jan 2001 11:23 AM
    Man, I must really have a good set of '99's, because I'm up to about 21 autocrosses and still have some left.
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    04 Jan 2001 11:52 AM
    Shaman, I have to agree... The general consensus in SOLO is that the Kumho's last much longer, and stay competitive during more heat cycles. Maybe you didn't have any alignment? Or were on a Sandpaper lot... but A shaved set of Kumho's (preferably heat cycled) seem to out last any Hoosier.
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    04 Jan 2001 12:19 PM
    My first (ever) set of Kumhos spent most of their life on stock wheels wearing too much on the outside due to lack of negative camber, have seen some 125 runs, and have to have seen at least 2K street miles. They have been flipped for the past 25 runs, and I still haven't killed them. Other than the possibility of some of the accumulated outside edge wear (now inside) catching up with them, they look like they may still go a while. We will see with three practices and one event coming up in the next two weeks. That is probably another 40+ runs if they last them.



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    04 Jan 2001 12:41 PM
    Hmmmmm... I've got about 45 runs, 6 months of hard street driving, and about 10,000 miles on my Kumho 712's. And I still love them. SCCAForums Image Definetly getting a new set come Febuary or March for the new season.
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    04 Jan 2001 03:04 PM
    As someone who purchased V700s in September I wish I would have known new ones were coming. That said the ones I received show little wear after about 16 runs & 400 mi of street driving. Must not be driving hard enough in our solo events. SCCAForums Image
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    04 Jan 2001 04:33 PM
    Hmm. Well, I have some answers for you:

    o 3500 lb car with 435rwhp + squared torque
    o 11.89@122.7 on street tires
    o car ran strong enough to beat all the mod classes for record below
    o slick, greasy tracks mixed with new, sandpaper tracks

    I sometimes go through a set of tires and I always go through a set of Hawk Blues in a lapping session (50 minutes on track). On any given Solo weekend, I go through a set of Hawk Blues and sometimes a set of rotors. Usually I have the fastest or second fastest time of the day in a car that should be well behind the curve because of its weight. Hell, I was 0.7 seconds behind the FTD in July running on Michelin Pilots. Not patting myself on the back, just trying to fill out why I'm not getting a lot of life out of the tires. Life isn't a priority.

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    04 Jan 2001 08:35 PM
    [i]My[/i] interest is in the price. People with scads of cash aren't going to be running V700s, anyway. If the new lineup is stickier, longer-lasting, and cheaper, then I'm game.

    Think there will be closeout deals on the older Kumhos?

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    05 Jan 2001 04:52 AM
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by JimR:
    [b]If the new lineup is stickier, longer-lasting, and cheaper, then I'm game.
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    Lighter weight would be nice too. Isn't less rotational inertia one of the main advantages of the Hoosiers? I understand this is due to the lack of steel plies in that brand. Maybe that compromises their puncture resistance on the street to and from events... but I think I'd be willing to try giving that up on the Kumhos...



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    05 Jan 2001 06:25 AM
    Tire wear, especially in autocross, will largely depend on the surface. Asphalt surfaces (especially ones that were sealed within the last few years) are extremely easy on tires.
    A Kumho V700 Victoracer will easily last 100-140 runs under these conditions.

    Concrete wears tires much more faster. Most local events arent run on concrete since most newer lots are made with asphalt (its cheaper).
    The bigger events and the local clubs that are lucky enough to have an airport nearby that they can use, are on concrete.

    Hoosiers definitely wear faster than Kumhos. Probably about twice as fast. The Kumhos are about 35% cheaper than the Hoosiers, but on concrete, at least for year 2000, I think the hoosier had a little better grip. The Kumho is awesome in the rain and can be driven on to events and even street driving, while the hoosier has such a thin fiberglass belt that you risk puncturing the tire with anything from a rock to a nail very easily on the street. The kumho has lots of steel belt and is very resistant to this.

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    06 Jan 2001 03:58 AM
    I've got approximately 30 runs(mixed pavement\concrete) and 2500 highway\city miles on the V700's on my 'Vette.No complaints!!! SCCAForums Image

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    06 Jan 2001 08:16 PM
    My last of Kumhos lasted 2 years, aout 20 events or 100 runs plus two days of lapping at a roadcourse.

    I just the new design is as durable. I want them to last at least one season.

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    12 Jan 2001 01:38 AM
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Garfield:
    [b]Man, I must really have a good set of '99's, because I'm up to about 21 autocrosses and still have some left.[/b]


    A testimony I have heard from some. . . They claimed that their Kumho V700s seemed to wear fairly quickly over the first few events, and then they claimed they seemed to last forever thereafter. Getting 300 runs sounds exaggerrated, but those were the numbers I heard from someone even tonight at our club meeting. SCCAForums Image SCCAForums Image

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    12 Jan 2001 06:48 AM
    Tire rack has the 195/55VR14's for only $88. Now here's the delimma... should I get them or wait for the new compound. Mine only have a few events left, and I'm sure the cold temps haven't done them much good.
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    12 Jan 2001 09:16 AM
    I've had two new sets of Kumhos, both 315/35-17 for my BSP Corvette.

    The first set came on the 17x12 CCW wheels I ordered for it. They went on the car in November of '99. As of right now, those tires are STILL on the car, and have not corded. This is even after Nationals (I got nine runs the first day due to various timing or red flag issues), and also another event after Nationals.

    I believe these tires have turned hard and are probably no good for competition. Immediately after finishing my four laps at the local event after Nationals, a friend came up to the car and felt the tires... they were warm, but hard. Not sticky at all. May explain why I did so poorly that day.

    Then I have a new set of 315's that have been stored in my garage for about nine months. They're 99 model Kumhos, and will go with the car when it goes to its new owner. I expect they will work MUCH better.

    My point is that if your tires are lasting unusually well, feel them immediately after your laps, and see if they feel sticky. If not, it may be time to toss 'em anyway.

    Rob
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    13 Jan 2001 03:22 PM
    Forgive me, i have not been reading about these NEW KUMHO's..... Since its the OFF SEASON around here, i find it jus FRUSTRATES me to read about it, and not be able to DRIVE/RACE! SCCAForums Image

    I have the 205/50/15 on my Integra now. What will be the NEW SIZES im hearing of?! Will they make a 215/45/50?! SCCAForums Image

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    16 Jan 2001 06:05 AM
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by johng:
    [b]The email I received from Kumho said that they wouldn't be available until the spring of 2001. I couldn't wait. I ordered the 225/45-13 Hoosiers. I like that Kumho is offering more sizes for the small diameter wheels though.

    John

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    If they're not available until spring, where did you order them??

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