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21 Jun 2003 11:52 PM
    <br />  RANK PAX    PERCENT NAME               CLASS                    <br />    1  44.585 100.0   Heyward Wagner     Street Touring S         <br />    2  44.786  99.6   Ian Stewart        B Stock                  <br />    3  44.796  99.5   Jim Blanton        C Street Prepared        <br />    4  44.879  99.3   Lynne Rothney-Kozlak  F Stock                  <br />    5  44.947  99.2   Mike Johnson       F Stock                  <br />    6  44.956  99.2   Paul Kozlak        F Stock                  <br />    7  44.957  99.2   G.H. Sharp         G Stock                  <br />    8  45.033  99.0   Steve Hoelscher    D Street Prepared        <br />    9  45.197  98.6   Matthew Murray     H Stock                  <br />   10  45.256  98.5   Jerry Onks         Super Stock              <br />   11  45.271  98.5   Aaron Buckley      G Stock                  <br />   12  45.271  98.5   Tad Kaminski       Street Touring S         <br />   13  45.299  98.4   Aahj Nealey        D Street Prepared        <br />   14  45.304  98.4   Sam Strano         F Stock                  <br />   15  45.308  98.4   Perry Aidelbaum    B Stock                  <br />   16  45.311  98.4   Corey Ridgick      Street Touring S         <br />   17  45.330  98.4   Mike Solomon       B Stock                  <br />   18  45.345  98.3   Bryan Hertweck     G Stock                  <br />   19  45.348  98.3   Chris Shenefield   Street Touring S         <br />   20  45.353  98.3   Eric Peterson      C Stock                  <br />   21  45.405  98.2   Mark Daddio        Street Modified          <br />   22  45.445  98.1   James Sheridan     D Street Prepared        <br />   23  45.450  98.1   Allen Kugler       F Street Prepared        <br />   24  45.451  98.1   Mark Chiles        G Stock                  <br />   25  45.459  98.1   Jeff Jacobs        H Stock                  <br />   26  45.464  98.1   Eric Hilbert       C Street Prepared        <br />   27  45.539  97.9   Brian Garfield     Street Touring X         <br />   28  45.543  97.9   Ed Raymundo        H Stock                  <br />   29  45.572  97.8   Courtney Cormier   Street Touring X         <br />   30  45.575  97.8   Jim Pastorius      E Stock                  <br />   31  45.576  97.8   Tim Aro            C Street Prepared        <br />   32  45.599  97.8   Geoffrey Craig     D Street Prepared        <br />   33  45.608  97.8   Doug Allen         Street Touring S         <br />   34  45.616  97.7   Mike Neary         D Street Prepared        <br />   35  45.648  97.7   Lee Piccione       B Street Prepared        <br />   36  45.659  97.6   Shawn Mundis       D Stock                  <br />   37  45.691  97.6   Chris Petersen     F Street Prepared        <br />   38  45.790  97.4   Pat Salerno        B Stock                  <br />   39  45.793  97.4   Andy Turnbull      G Stock                  <br />   40  45.808  97.3   Mitchell Wagner    Street Touring S         <br />   41  45.847  97.2   Terry Baker        Street Modified          <br />   42  45.857  97.2   Rob Foley          G Stock                  <br />   43  45.859  97.2   Brian Conners      B Stock                  <br />   44  45.880  97.2   Caleb Miller       D Stock                  <br />   45  45.887  97.2   Michael Potocki    E Stock                  <br />   46  45.892  97.2   Ken Frey           E Stock                  <br />   47  45.910  97.1   Vernon Anderson    D Stock                  <br />   48  45.921  97.1   Frank Gonzalez     Super Stock              <br />   49  45.967  97.0   Ron Bistrais       F Stock                  <br />   50  45.998  96.9   Michael Snyder     E Stock                  <br />   51  46.014  96.9   Vic Madrid         B Stock                  <br />   52  46.042  96.8   Jim Reyenga        B Stock                  <br />   53  46.087  96.7   Jeff Yatsko        Street Touring S         <br />   54  46.121  96.7   Scott Hoffman      G Stock                  <br />   55  46.136  96.6   Thomas M. Bleh     D Street Prepared        <br />   56  46.142  96.6   Eric Kriemelmeyer  D Street Prepared        <br />   57  46.144  96.6   Chris Travis       Street Modified          <br />   58  46.213  96.5   Samuel Krauss      D Stock                  <br />   59  46.260  96.4   David Newman       F Prepared               <br />   60  46.265  96.4   Jeff Blumenthal    F Modified               <br />   61  46.296  96.3   Matt Watkins       D Street Prepared        <br />   62  46.303  96.3   Don Slevin         B Stock                  <br />   63  46.332  96.2   John Whitling      F Modified               <br />   64  46.362  96.2   Rod Mcgeorge       C Street Prepared        <br />   65  46.382  96.1   Rob Leone          Street Touring S         <br />   66  46.391  96.1   Jeffrey Hurst      Street Touring S         <br />   67  46.444  96.0   Tom Labetti        B Stock                  <br />   68  46.452  96.0   Kent Rafferty      Super Stock              <br />   69  46.453  96.0   Bruce Bellom       F Stock                  <br />   70  46.460  96.0   Mike Ancas         E Prepared               <br />   71  46.461  96.0   Marshall Cone      H Stock                  <br />   72  46.472  95.9   Karen Rafferty     Super Stock              <br />   73  46.514  95.9   Mark Presley       A Stock                  <br />   74  46.516  95.8   Ed Golla           G Stock                  <br />   75  46.523  95.8   Eric Carman        F Street Prepared        <br />   76  46.545  95.8   Jason Burns        F Stock                  <br />   77  46.546  95.8   Karen Kraus        F Stock                  <br />   78  46.547  95.8   Diane Lapusnak     F Stock                  <br />   79  46.556  95.8   Ian Baker          H Stock                  <br />   80  46.585  95.7   Steve Landstra     Super Stock              <br />   81  46.606  95.7   Matt Williams      Street Modified          <br />   82  46.649  95.6   Ron Katona         B Street Prepared        <br />   83  46.676  95.5   Anthony Crea       F Street Prepared        <br />   84  46.699  95.5   Keath Marx         G Stock                  <br />   85  46.701  95.5   Jim Snyder         D Stock                  <br />   86  46.738  95.4   Randy Pearson      B Stock                  <br />   87  46.792  95.3   Dan Shalkowski     Street Touring S         <br />   88  46.794  95.3   Alan Pozner        D Stock                  <br />   89  46.797  95.3   Richard Wayne      Street Modified 2        <br />   90  46.809  95.2   Geoff Zimmer       F Street Prepared        <br />   91  46.827  95.2   Vincent Gladfelte  D Street Prepared        <br />   92  46.842  95.2   Burak Tuglu        Street Touring S         <br />   93  46.844  95.2   Phil Dame          Super Stock              <br />   94  46.864  95.1   Brenda Ashburn     H Stock Ladies           <br />   95  46.875  95.1   Charles Frank      G Stock                  <br />   96  46.906  95.1   Tony Powell        Street Touring X         <br />   97  46.907  95.0   Ian D. Haskell     D Stock                  <br />   98  46.911  95.0   Chris Perera       D Stock                  <br />   99  46.917  95.0   Brian Yoder        H Stock                  <br />  100  46.922  95.0   Justin Bedard      Street Touring X         <br />  101  46.942  95.0   Ramzi Antypas      Street Modified          <br />  102  46.945  95.0   Randy Petshchover  B Stock                  <br />
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    22 Jun 2003 04:23 AM
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by The_Winch:
    [b]
    <br />  RANK PAX    PERCENT NAME               CLASS                    <br />    1  44.585 100.0   Heyward Wagner     Street Touring S         <br />    2  44.786  99.6   Ian Stewart        B Stock        <br />
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    Ian was protested...you can drop his times.
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    22 Jun 2003 08:58 PM
    Here are the rest of the results. It's a shame somebody was so insecure with their own driving that they felt the need to protest Ian over a nothing piece of missing plastic. Unfair ground effects!!!!!!!
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    23 Jun 2003 05:33 AM
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cole:
    [b]Here are the rest of the results. It's a shame somebody was so insecure with their own driving that they felt the need to protest Ian over a nothing piece of missing plastic. Unfair ground effects!!!!!!![/b]


    It's a shame a national level competitor would show up to an event with pieces of their car missing (thus being *illegal*). It's a legitamite protest. This is just one of the many differences between local and national events.

    I wasn't there, so I won't argue if the punishment fit the "crime." Seems to me, that dropping his fastest time might be a more reasonable penalty for the rumored insignificance of the missing piece.

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    23 Jun 2003 05:35 AM
    Hmmm, I smell a tougher PAX/RTP number for STS in 2004.

    In a side note, it was one heck of a come from behind win in CSP for Tim Aro! I'd like to see Sunday's results by themselves so I could see where Tim's time indexes.

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    23 Jun 2003 05:57 AM
    I'm sure it was "legit"....just inappropriate nit-picking.

    Well its looking as though F Stock is safe from the 350Z. Carter Thompson was much faster than Tommy Pulliam at the SE Divisional and Pat Salerno smoked the F Stock crowd at the NT....I know, just two events, but shows a trend.
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    23 Jun 2003 06:26 AM
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by 73celica:
    [b]Hmmm, I smell a tougher PAX/RTP number for STS in 2004.

    In a side note, it was one heck of a come from behind win in CSP for Tim Aro! I'd like to see Sunday's results by themselves so I could see where Tim's time indexes.

    Scott[/b]

    hmmmmm...I'd like to see that Index myself.
    sidebar...course surface was asphalt.
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    23 Jun 2003 06:45 AM
    The Day 1 top 25 in PAX included 4 G Stock top national competitors, 2 H Stock, and 4 STS....all with similar PAX. Seems pretty much what you would expect.

    What does asphalt have to do with it? Not being a smart-ass. Are you saying Hoosiers do much better than Falkens, et all on concrete but not asphalt?
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    23 Jun 2003 06:58 AM
    "What does asphalt have to do with it? Not being a smart-ass. Are you saying Hoosiers do much better than Falkens, et all on concrete but not asphalt?"

    Absolutely! Concrete allows Hoosiers to grip much better. The ST* crowd has better chances of paxing well on asphalt then concrete.

    -Tom
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    23 Jun 2003 07:01 AM
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cole:
    [b]The Day 1 top 25 in PAX included 4 G Stock top national competitors, 2 H Stock, and 4 STS....all with similar PAX. Seems pretty much what you would expect.

    What does asphalt have to do with it? Not being a smart-ass. Are you saying Hoosiers do much better than Falkens, et all on concrete but not asphalt?[/b]


    I think you might have answered the question yourself. Asphalt in my opinon needs rubber laid down for rear wheel drive cars to go fast.Usually 1-maybe 2 heats. If you saw the surface you would see what I mean. But there are always exceptions...

    Awesome course (Lee Piccone) and a very well run event! Great job by the DC Region and Autocrossers INC.
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    23 Jun 2003 09:15 AM
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cole:
    [b]I'm sure it was "legit"....just inappropriate nit-picking.

    Well its looking as though F Stock is safe from the 350Z. Carter Thompson was much faster than Tommy Pulliam at the SE Divisional and Pat Salerno smoked the F Stock crowd at the NT....I know, just two events, but shows a trend.

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    The missing piece of plastic off the car actually allowed more air into the engine area, thus helping intake. Was it worth .8 second? No, but it was worth something. The protestors had thought about waiting until Nationals and hold it in their pocket, but decided to do Ian a favor and protest it now. - AB



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    23 Jun 2003 09:53 AM
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by B1mmer:
    [b] The missing piece of plastic off the car actually allowed more air into the engine area, thus helping intake. Was it worth .8 second? No, but it was worth something. The protestors had thought about waiting until Nationals and hold it in their pocket, but decided to do Ian a favor and protest it now. - AB
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    Commendable if true....he could have just told him that he would protest him at Nationals unless he fixed it.

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    23 Jun 2003 11:03 AM
    The piece of plastic may not have been the only illegal modification done to the car. That was the one that was obvious and absolutely incontestable. From what I heard there were other modifications including brake ducting that were not on the protest.
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    23 Jun 2003 03:26 PM
    Here are the paxed times of the people within the top 5%. I left Ian's times in so each individual can decide on their own whether they are useful.

    <br />  RANK PAX    PERCENT NAME               CLASS                         <br />    1  85.342 100.0   Heyward Wagner     Street Touring S              <br />    2  85.933  99.3   Tad Kaminski       Street Touring S              <br />    3  86.201  99.0   Chris Shenefield   Street Touring S              <br />    4  86.260  98.9   G.H. Sharp         G Stock                       <br />    5  86.271  98.9   Matthew Murray     H Stock                       <br />    6  86.312  98.9   Paul Kozlak        F Stock                       <br />    7  86.373  98.8   Steve Hoelscher    D Street Prepared             <br />    8  86.395  98.8   Mark Chiles        G Stock                       <br />    9  86.476  98.7   Allen Kugler       F Street Prepared             <br />   10  86.481  98.7   Jerry Onks         Super Stock                   <br />   11  86.508  98.7   Jeff Jacobs        H Stock                       <br />   12  86.556  98.6   Tim Aro            C Street Prepared             <br />   13  86.566  98.6   Aaron Buckley      G Stock                       <br />   14  86.612  98.5   Mike Johnson       F Stock                       <br />   15  86.911  98.2   Mike Solomon       B Stock                       <br />   16  86.923  98.2   James Sheridan     D Street Prepared             <br />   17  86.986  98.1   Bryan Hertweck     G Stock                       <br />   18  87.113  98.0   Jim Blanton        C Street Prepared             <br />   19  87.132  97.9   Mark Daddio        Street Modified               <br />   20  87.221  97.8   Perry Aidelbaum    B Stock                       <br />   21  87.223  97.8   Lynne Rothney-Kozl F Stock                       <br />   22  87.285  97.8   Chris Petersen     F Street Prepared             <br />   23  87.296  97.8   Corey Ridgick      Street Touring S              <br />   24  87.327  97.7   Aahj Nealey        D Street Prepared             <br />   25  87.329  97.7   Ian Stewart        B Stock                       <br />   26  87.349  97.7   Rob Foley          G Stock                       <br />   27  87.372  97.7   Courtney Cormier   Street Touring X              <br />   28  87.392  97.7   Lee Piccione       B Street Prepared             <br />   29  87.452  97.6   Sam Strano         F Stock                       <br />   30  87.495  97.5   Ed Raymundo        H Stock                       <br />   31  87.510  97.5   Doug Allen         Street Touring S              <br />   32  87.589  97.4   Eric Hilbert       C Street Prepared             <br />   33  87.629  97.4   Mike Neary         D Street Prepared             <br />   34  87.639  97.4   Shawn Mundis       D Stock                       <br />   35  87.650  97.4   Ron Bistrais       F Stock                       <br />   36  87.802  97.2   Mitchell Wagner    Street Touring S              <br />   37  87.825  97.2   Pat Salerno        B Stock                       <br />   38  87.852  97.1   Frank Gonzalez     Super Stock                   <br />   39  87.895  97.1   Scott Hoffman      G Stock                       <br />   40  87.928  97.1   Andy Turnbull      G Stock                       <br />   41  87.935  97.1   Michael Potocki    E Stock                       <br />   42  87.944  97.0   Brian Garfield     Street Touring X              <br />   43  87.960  97.0   Geoffrey Craig     D Street Prepared             <br />   44  87.988  97.0   Vernon Anderson    D Stock                       <br />   45  88.126  96.8   Ken Frey           E Stock                       <br />   46  88.134  96.8   Rod Mcgeorge       C Street Prepared             <br />   47  88.170  96.8   Jeffrey Hurst      Street Touring S              <br />   48  88.211  96.7   Eric Peterson      C Stock                       <br />   49  88.212  96.7   Samuel Krauss      D Stock                       <br />   50  88.229  96.7   Brian Conners      B Stock                       <br />   51  88.256  96.7   Kent Rafferty      Super Stock                   <br />   52  88.291  96.7   David Newman       F Prepared                    <br />   53  88.318  96.6   Thomas M. Bleh     D Street Prepared             <br />   54  88.391  96.5   Mark Presley       A Stock                       <br />   55  88.393  96.5   Chris Travis       Street Modified               <br />   56  88.575  96.3   Jeff Yatsko        Street Touring S              <br />   57  88.589  96.3   Vic Madrid         B Stock                       <br />   58  88.590  96.3   Eric Carman        F Street Prepared             <br />   59  88.628  96.3   Ed Golla           G Stock                       <br />   60  88.630  96.3   Eric Kriemelmeyer  D Street Prepared             <br />   61  88.722  96.2   Michael Snyder     E Stock                       <br />   62  88.724  96.2   Caleb Miller       D Stock                       <br />   63  88.731  96.2   Geoff Zimmer       F Street Prepared             <br />   64  88.771  96.1   Steve Landstra     Super Stock                   <br />   65  88.787  96.1   Jim Pastorius      E Stock                       <br />   66  88.799  96.1   Keath Marx         G Stock                       <br />   67  88.889  96.0   Matt Williams      Street Modified               <br />   68  88.980  95.9   Tom Labetti        B Stock                       <br />   69  88.992  95.9   Rob Leone          Street Touring S              <br />   70  89.039  95.8   John Whitling      F Modified                    <br />   71  89.119  95.8   Vincent Gladfelter D Street Prepared             <br />   72  89.127  95.8   Matt Watkins       D Street Prepared             <br />   73  89.160  95.7   Diane Lapusnak     F Stock                       <br />   74  89.166  95.7   Ian Baker          H Stock                       <br />   75  89.188  95.7   Karen Kraus        F Stock                       <br />   76  89.262  95.6   Karen Rafferty     Super Stock                   <br />   77  89.290  95.6   Marshall Cone      H Stock                       <br />   78  89.304  95.6   Jeff Blumenthal    F Modified                    <br />   79  89.395  95.5   Alan Pozner        D Stock                       <br />   80  89.473  95.4   Jason Burns        F Stock                       <br />   81  89.508  95.3   Randy Petshchover  B Stock                       <br />   82  89.576  95.3   Jim Snyder         D Stock                       <br />   83  89.607  95.2   Ian D. Haskell     D Stock                       <br />   84  89.631  95.2   Chris Perera       D Stock                       <br />   85  89.649  95.2   Ron Katona         B Street Prepared             <br />   86  89.710  95.1   Richard Wayne      Street Modified 2             <br />   87  89.730  95.1   Mike Ancas         E Prepared                    <br />   88  89.753  95.1   Randy Pearson      B Stock                       <br />   89  89.755  95.1   Bruce Bellom       F Stock                       <br />   90  89.779  95.1   Phil Dame          Super Stock                   <br />   91  89.871  95.0   Kenny Sorensen     G Stock                       <br />
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    23 Jun 2003 04:02 PM
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cole:
    [b]Aaron you gotta quit beating Bryan in his own car. SCCAForums Image[/b]

    Nah, he just needs to [i]win[/i] when he beats me.

    I took him in our 2 Pro's this year, he's taken me at the 2 Tours. My turn next week. SCCAForums Image

    I think it's great having a comparable driver in my car. I think we've been within 1 sec of each other at all 4 of those 2003 national events. We're able to give each other great feedback.



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    23 Jun 2003 04:45 PM
    It's cool to see that almost all of the FS drivers (through 9th position!) made it in the top 5%. Says something for [i]those people[/i] who think FS drivers are a bunch of hacks (and I hope the person who said as much at DC is reading this). SCCAForums Image Hmmmmm, where are all the SM2 drivers? SCCAForums Image SCCAForums Image

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    23 Jun 2003 06:42 PM
    Considering that a CSP won SM2, I wouldn't expect to see a lot of SM2 in the very top ranks. BTW, Rich Wayne is #86.

    [This message has been edited by SpyderVenom (edited June 24, 2003).]
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    23 Jun 2003 09:37 PM
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by The_Winch:
    [b]Here are the paxed times of the people within the top 5%. I left Ian's times in so each individual can decide on their own whether they are useful.[/b]


    Just for clarification...Pat Salerno offered Ian the 350Z for Sunday, and that is where his day 2 times are from.
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    24 Jun 2003 05:05 AM
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by NoCones:[b]
    Nah, he just needs to [i]win[/i] when he beats me.

    I took him in our 2 Pro's this year, he's taken me at the 2 Tours. My turn next week. SCCAForums Image

    I think it's great having a comparable driver in my car. I think we've been within 1 sec of each other at all 4 of those 2003 national events. We're able to give each other great feedback.

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    Bryan's right. I've been his bitch at the Pro's, and he's been mine at the Tours. I know he wants to keep it that way this weekend, so he has a shot at the overall Pro win. Like he said, it's nice to have comparable drivers in the same car. Great feedback and similar car setup and driving styles makes it all good... Plus, we both like beer a lot SCCAForums Image - AB


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    24 Jun 2003 06:44 AM
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by CamaroFS34:
    [b]It's cool to see that almost all of the FS drivers (through 9th position!) made it in the top 5%.[/b]

    10 GS'ers in the top 5% too SCCAForums Image

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