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Ok maby just thinking out of the box but the engine is out of my 1976 ITC preped toyota corlla sr5 that i use for autocross i just got another toyota for roadracing so i was thinking of that empty engine bay and staring at this v8 in the garage wondered toyota corolla was sold as a geo prissim and i think chevy nova dose that make the chevy v8 a legal swap to stay in ST? or XP/CP? or will it put me in DM with the way too fast cars?? anyone know, thanks.
68 VW Beetle HS 2nd '08 1st '09 1st '10
76 Toyota Corolla ITC/FSP 2nd '11
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I don't see why the v8 swap would make you ineligible for xp. St seems highly unlikely in my opinion. You could maybe do sm if you could get it in there without messing with stock subframe too much.
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Joined: 3/25/2011
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Thanks I thought it might going to spend some time in the rule book when I get home
68 VW Beetle HS 2nd '08 1st '09 1st '10
76 Toyota Corolla ITC/FSP 2nd '11
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The bigger issue is if the drivetrain orientation is changed from FWD to RWD. Was the original Carolla FWD?
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Boxologist wrote:The bigger issue is if the drivetrain orientation is changed from FWD to RWD. Was the original Carolla FWD? 1976 is a rear-drive
Jim
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No engine swaps in ST or CP.
Per my understanding, rebaged cars do not count under the SM engine swap allowance. E.g. You can't swap a Chevy engine into your Corrolla just because Chevy sold a rebagded Toyota as the Nova. Thats why you can't swap Ford small block V8's into Miata's despite they fact they were availible in Mazda's rebadged version of the Explorer (and Mazda & Ford have some fairly strong corporate ties).
For XP, if you can get it to fit without cutting up the car you should be OK. Otherwise you are going to be in EM.
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^If I am not mistaken then new engine swap rule passed for SM for 2012 that allows engine swaps from other makes.
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Not the clearest rule, but definately no unlimited swaps in SM:
D. Drivetrain and related components (induction, ignition, fuel systems, etc.) are unrestricted except for the following limitations:
1. Engine block must be a production unit manufactured and badged the same as the original standard or optional engine for that model. Badges that exist as marketing aliases for the manufacturer will be recognized as equivalents. Swaps involving makes related only at a corporate level are not recognized as equivalents. Models produced as a joint venture between manufacturers may utilize any engine from any partner in the joint venture, provided that an engine from the desired manufacturer was a factory option in that particular model (e.g. Eagle Talon available originally with either a Mitsubishi or Chrysler engine, may use any motor from Chrysler or Mitsubishi). This allows engine blocks manufactured as production units for sale in other countries such as Japan or Germany.
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XP or EM with the V8.
In XP I imagine you'd have to ballast up quite a bit to get to 2340 lbs (assuming a 5.7 liter motor), but in EM you could run it at 1700 lbs. or so...
More interesting in my mind is the new 2000cc boxer motor coming in the Scion/Subaru thing... In SM with that motor, 275 tires and a solid rear axle, you'd only have to weigh 1950 lbs.
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the ford into the miata isnt the same car on the same line in the gcr but the corola and nova are on the same line in the gcr thay are at least during some years the same car thats why i thought i could do the swa
68 VW Beetle HS 2nd '08 1st '09 1st '10
76 Toyota Corolla ITC/FSP 2nd '11
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"Models produced as a joint venture between manufacturers may utilize any engine from any partner in the joint venture, provided that an engine from the desired manufacturer was a factory option in that particular model (e.g. Eagle Talon available originally with either a Mitsubishi or Chrysler engine, may use any motor from Chrysler or Mitsubishi" this is the line that i thought would alow me to put the chevy v8 into the toy but after doing more checking it would alow a toyota engine into the chevy not the other way because the toyota version ,well none of them, used a chevy engine ummm guess i need to save up for a tundra v8 lol or turbo??????
68 VW Beetle HS 2nd '08 1st '09 1st '10
76 Toyota Corolla ITC/FSP 2nd '11
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I was thinking of the often forgoten baby LS used in trucks 4.8 ltr. and alluminum too, can get one realy cheep, but the subie boxter is too wide to sit between the rails, but the car it comes in looks like it will be very competitive, cant wait to see one in person.
68 VW Beetle HS 2nd '08 1st '09 1st '10
76 Toyota Corolla ITC/FSP 2nd '11
???? for 2012
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