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Biggest difference is the 3.73 gears standard and non of all that frilly crap scoops and stuff on the shelby.

 

 

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— Extended wear, improved fade resistance
— Reduced noise & lower dusting
• Ford Racing Strut Tower Brace
• Serialization Label on Strut Tower Brace
• Sport Tuned Suspension (shocks/springs/stabilizer bar)
• Tire Inflation Kit provided in lieu Space-saver mini spare
• Modified "H" Pipe
• 3.73:1 Limited Slip Rear Axle
• Dark Grey Brake Calipers
• 18" Euro-Flange Bullitt Wheels w/Charcoal Satin Finish
• 3 ½" Packed Exhaust Tips
• New Upper Grille w/o Fog Lamps or Pony Badge
• Bullitt Emblem on Faux Fuel Cap
• Black Interior w/upgraded steering wheel
• Sport Leather Seat Appearance
• Unique IP Finish (gunmetal engine turn pattern)
• Aluminum Interior Accents (ball shifter/sill plate/pedal covers)
• Includes spoiler delete/not available with GT spoiler
• Available in Highland Green or Black exterior paint colors

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James Lambert

I tried throwing them away but the garbage man said that the city was not allowed to dispose of charred primates. I told him that I had a wet one. He couldn't take that one either. I didn't bother asking about the frozen ones.

Holy crap!

 I think I now have a car that tops my list.... I really wanted one back during the last gen, and now I want one even more....

 

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Brian Huber
06 Cobalt SS-SC (retired to DD Duty )
02 Z06 ( Whole new ball o' wax )
#??SS

Interesting

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I am Chris Hammond.
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Speed in 2nd goes from 63mph to 60mph...probably not enough to make it any more neccessary to shift to 3rd...so, no real downside, and some upside, in the shorter gear, I guess...

Is the spring package going to be identical to the Shelby? Other than that variable, I can't see any reason to choose the Shelby over the Bullitt, particularly since the Bullitt will be cheaper in all likelihood...although I am now hearing of Shelby's available new for less than MSRP.

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mwood:

Speed in 2nd goes from 63mph to 60mph...probably not enough to make it any more neccessary to shift to 3rd...so, no real downside, and some upside, in the shorter gear, I guess...

Is the spring package going to be identical to the Shelby? Other than that variable, I can't see any reason to choose the Shelby over the Bullitt, particularly since the Bullitt will be cheaper in all likelihood...although I am now hearing of Shelby's available new for less than MSRP.

 I'm guessing the Bullitt will be priced somewhere in between the standard GT and the CS, so that's not bad. It's nice to see the Shelby coming back down to realistic prices and become more appealing to grab.

 

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Brian Huber
06 Cobalt SS-SC (retired to DD Duty )
02 Z06 ( Whole new ball o' wax )
#??SS

Darkhelmet:

mwood:

Speed in 2nd goes from 63mph to 60mph...probably not enough to make it any more neccessary to shift to 3rd...so, no real downside, and some upside, in the shorter gear, I guess...

Is the spring package going to be identical to the Shelby? Other than that variable, I can't see any reason to choose the Shelby over the Bullitt, particularly since the Bullitt will be cheaper in all likelihood...although I am now hearing of Shelby's available new for less than MSRP.

 I'm guessing the Bullitt will be priced somewhere in between the standard GT and the CS, so that's not bad. It's nice to see the Shelby coming back down to realistic prices and become more appealing to grab.

 

This is definitely interesting.  As for CS pricing dropping, I guess my local dealer still hasn't gotten the memo.  They have 4 CS's and all of them are marked up $5k over sticker price.

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Keith
2008 Honda S2000

I wouldn't hold up on Shelby conversions. 

3.73's are not a good thing IMHO.  With the tires we run 61-62 mph is the rev-limiter.  I pounded it hard @ the finish of the east course, almost got to it on the long uphill run on the west course.  I had to go to 3rd in Milwaukee. 

 Also, the "sport tuned suspension" is pretty vague.  They tell you the FR1 power pack is coming, but not the FR3 suspension.  This may or may not be a problem, but the fact is we don't know what the springs and bars will be like.  I would not assume that you'll get the same suspension the Shelby has. 

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Sam Strano
Strano Performance Parts
814-849-3450

As for Shelby's..  One went on Ebay for like $33k a week or two ago.  You can find them for sticker, and even less if you look around.  And FYI, be careful when using the term "CS" as there is a California Special model to, that actually says CS/GT on the side.  :)   And fwiw, that's the car you want to start with if you plan on cloning a Shelby for Solo as they have the correct body parts to start with.

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Sam Strano
Strano Performance Parts
814-849-3450

Yep, Sam....

You created a monster in me now researching this stuff..... :)

V8 RWD fun is sounding very appealing to me.

 

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Brian Huber
06 Cobalt SS-SC (retired to DD Duty )
02 Z06 ( Whole new ball o' wax )
#??SS

01 FS Z28:

I wouldn't hold up on Shelby conversions. 

3.73's are not a good thing IMHO.  With the tires we run 61-62 mph is the rev-limiter.  I pounded it hard @ the finish of the east course, almost got to it on the long uphill run on the west course.  I had to go to 3rd in Milwaukee. 

 Also, the "sport tuned suspension" is pretty vague.  They tell you the FR1 power pack is coming, but not the FR3 suspension.  This may or may not be a problem, but the fact is we don't know what the springs and bars will be like.  I would not assume that you'll get the same suspension the Shelby has. 

Yeah, and you'll have to hope the Bullitt's calibration for the rev limiters (the car uses two different methods) is the same as the Shelby's calibration. If it's the same as the regular GT, you're going to be hating life when you touch the rev limit, especially if you're trying to turn

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Brian "Big Enos" Burdette

01 FS Z28:

I wouldn't hold up on Shelby conversions. 

3.73's are not a good thing IMHO.  With the tires we run 61-62 mph is the rev-limiter.  I pounded it hard @ the finish of the east course, almost got to it on the long uphill run on the west course.  I had to go to 3rd in Milwaukee. 

 Also, the "sport tuned suspension" is pretty vague.  They tell you the FR1 power pack is coming, but not the FR3 suspension.  This may or may not be a problem, but the fact is we don't know what the springs and bars will be like.  I would not assume that you'll get the same suspension the Shelby has. 

 

I am with sam on this one...I find that the 3.55 gearing is just about as close to the perfect gearing as you are going to get for a car like this as far as autox track go...It gives you just enough down low acceleration while keeping you from bouncing off the rev limiter too too much in the "high speed" sections...Anything bigger than a 3.55 (i.e. 3.73) and you will be pounding the crap out of that rev limiter on any time of "high speed" course...

 As for Bullitt suspension, from Ford's point of view, it would be incredibly counter productive to put the same power and suspension setup on the Bullitt as you would find on the Shelby GT...Most than likely the Bullitt will be priced somewhere between the GT and the Shelby GT, so it would be pointless for them to put all the "in-demand" goodies, namely suspension and power upgrades, on the intermediate priced car, otherwise no one would have any reason to buy the over-priced Shelby GT car...if they are going with the FRP1 power pack, then they will probably go with a lesser version of the shelby suspension...in other words, you won't get all of the components...you will either get lowering springs OR stiffer sway bars OR whatever struts they go with...you will only get a "partial" suspension upgrade rather than the whole thing....

 Of course, I drive an 05, so the whole Shelby conversion vs. Bullitt vs. 18" wheels vs. whatever upgrades do nothing for me as model options were pretty limited in 05...But like sam, I am also of the opinion that with the right setup and right DRIVER, an 05 can run with an 07 CS or Shelby GT or 08 Bullitt any day...

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Christopher R.
Mississippi Region SCCA
'05 Yellow Pony GT # 69 FS

How often is a properly prepared (tires, front bar, shocks, etc) and driven 05+ Mustang/Shelby "traction limited" with the 3.55's? Especially out of typical corners? The last time I drove FS was in an 88 Mustang 5.0 on BFG's and wheelspin out of corners or off the line was always a problem but tires and suspension have come a loooong way since then. I assume that in Pro Solo straight line starts the tires must hook up pretty well or the cars wouldn't be so fast. I'm more concerned with corner exit.

Dick

Dick Rasmussen:

How often is a properly prepared (tires, front bar, shocks, etc) and driven 05+ Mustang/Shelby "traction limited" with the 3.55's? Especially out of typical corners? The last time I drove FS was in an 88 Mustang 5.0 on BFG's and wheelspin out of corners or off the line was always a problem but tires and suspension have come a loooong way since then. I assume that in Pro Solo straight line starts the tires must hook up pretty well or the cars wouldn't be so fast. I'm more concerned with corner exit.

Dick

I have a '07 GT (street car) and I've autocrossed a Shelby GT and they both just seem to put power down like crazy. The engine doesn't have the lightning quick throttle response that my (ESP) Camaro has, either, so no doubt that helps. I'm sure the 107" wheelbase doesn't hurt. The newer generation autocross tires also are a quantum leap better than the BFGs you last drove on. The A6 and V710 are famous for corner-exit and launch traction compared to the older Hoosiers and BFGs.

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Brian "Big Enos" Burdette

Apparently the Bullitt has a higher redline as well.  I have no idea by how much.

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James Lambert

I tried throwing them away but the garbage man said that the city was not allowed to dispose of charred primates. I told him that I had a wet one. He couldn't take that one either. I didn't bother asking about the frozen ones.

SoftBatch:

Apparently the Bullitt has a higher redline as well.  I have no idea by how much.

A friend of mine has a pre production Bullitt at their business, starting this afternoon. I've asked that he give it a good look over and report his findings...including looking for a red line on the tach above 6000rpm.

Where did you hear they were giving the Bullitt more head room? That would be pretty cool.

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A forum poster sent an email to the Ford Car Ordering people asking whether the Bullitt was going to have 4 or 6 gauges.  They replied back that it was 6 gauges with a higher redline.

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James Lambert

I tried throwing them away but the garbage man said that the city was not allowed to dispose of charred primates. I told him that I had a wet one. He couldn't take that one either. I didn't bother asking about the frozen ones.

Well, the 4 vs. 6 gauges thing is mis-leading.  That's the difference between a Deluxe and Premium package starter car.  There are Shelby's that do not have Volt and oil pressure gauges, and one that do.  There are GT's that do and GT's that don't.  So you can get a standard GT with "6 gauges".  That's not different.

 As for the redline, and the markings on the tach.  The car will have a slightly changed redline as part of the FR1 power pack.  The same tuning the Shelby has.  However, the tach won't change, because the rev-limiter is barely moved (the way it comes in is the biggest change).  Shelby's don't have a different than stock tach, I highly doubt the Bullitt will.  It could, but I highly doubt it. 

 

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Sam Strano
Strano Performance Parts
814-849-3450

Here's what I got:

"6500 RPM redline due to a different crank pulley dampener..."

He's going to drive it today and let me know where 2nd tops out, with the stock tires.

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I'm just saying I don't buy it.  The rev-limiter is set by the factory, and re-set by the calibration in the FR1 power pack, which I'm familiar with since I've been driving a car all year with it.  Frankly, the stock tires are SO TALL, that he'll be over 70 mph before he hits the limiter, my GT does that without the FR1 pack.  And knowing how fast you are going is still a guess.  The speedometer numbers are far to crowded to know at a glance, and they are only marked (and marked in very tiny size) in 5 mph increments. 

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Sam Strano
Strano Performance Parts
814-849-3450

01 FS Z28:

I'm just saying I don't buy it.  The rev-limiter is set by the factory, and re-set by the calibration in the FR1 power pack, which I'm familiar with since I've been driving a car all year with it.  Frankly, the stock tires are SO TALL, that he'll be over 70 mph before he hits the limiter, my GT does that without the FR1 pack.  And knowing how fast you are going is still a guess.  The speedometer numbers are far to crowded to know at a glance, and they are only marked (and marked in very tiny size) in 5 mph increments. 

I hear you on the speedo inaccuracy...meaningless data.

On the other hand, he swears the tach is marked at 6500 and has experience with the base GT's instruments...we'll see what the real story is, I guess. He does plan to take it to red line and see what happens...of course, tachs are also usually pretty far off of real rpm's, as well.

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