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2009 Nationals and Pro Finale moving?

Last post 11-10-2008, 9:01 PM by Keith Casey - IMHO.... 1437 replies.
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  •  06-17-2008, 3:54 PM 305820 in reply to 305815

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    motoring:

    Several of the questions are hard to answer,  but there are comment fields to allow you to explain your priorities.    

    It is a little scary that this questionaire is just coming out...  I would have hoped they were further along in the site search.  

     I like the one about splitting the event. Open Classes first then two weeks later have the Ladies classes (ducks)

     

  •  06-17-2008, 3:54 PM 305822 in reply to 305815

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    My guess is that they ARE pretty far along.  Based on some of the questions, you can see the restrictions that some of the sites they've found present.  So they want to know which is less bad.

     

     

  •  06-17-2008, 5:28 PM 305834 in reply to 305820

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    StrokerAce:

     I like the one about splitting the event. Open Classes first then two weeks later have the Ladies classes (ducks)

     

    Awesome.

    And FJr can run with the ladies, since they'll all need their moms there for them.

    Big Smile

    --Andy

     

  •  06-17-2008, 5:40 PM 305836 in reply to 305834

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    Andy Hollis:
    StrokerAce:

     I like the one about splitting the event. Open Classes first then two weeks later have the Ladies classes (ducks)

     

    Awesome.

    And FJr can run with the ladies, since they'll all need their moms there for them.

    Big Smile

    --Andy

     

     

    Andy, this week you are MY hero!!! 


    Tracy Ramsey
    Team Blenderblaster
    2000 MR2 DP Spyder
  •  06-17-2008, 5:43 PM 305837 in reply to 305834

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    regarding the survey... splitting the event is a terrible idea. part of the reason solo is solo is because you have social support from your friends who aren't running that heat. this is one thing that seperates us from the road racers.

    the thing about the prosolo being held two weeks away, or whatever, that frightens me, too. they must be looking at some small sites.

    how upsetting.


    Carrie
    '89 STS2 CRX Si (Thanks Ian!)
    '88 STS2 CRX Si (it's heeeeee---eeere!)
    '93 ES MR2 in L1 on occaision (Thanks Jerry!)
  •  06-17-2008, 6:18 PM 305841 in reply to 305837

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    no good satellite view, but how about this former bomber base in oklahoma?

     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardmore_AFB%2C_OK

    it's now a municipal airport and industrial park.

    according to the chamber website, apparently michelin has a facility in ardmore that employs 1800.

     


    Carrie
    '89 STS2 CRX Si (Thanks Ian!)
    '88 STS2 CRX Si (it's heeeeee---eeere!)
    '93 ES MR2 in L1 on occaision (Thanks Jerry!)
  •  06-17-2008, 6:25 PM 305844 in reply to 305837

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    scarrie:
    the thing about the prosolo being held two weeks away, or whatever, that frightens me, too. they must be looking at some small sites.

    Or,  they are looking at a larger site that has date restrictions.   TMS maybe?  From the questioning of the survey it looks like Blytheville is in the running.


    Shawn Hill
    07 Mini Cooper HS
    Kansas City Region SCCA
  •  06-17-2008, 6:51 PM 305849 in reply to 305841

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    That Ardmore site does look good.  It is plenty big if both aprons are employed.

  •  06-17-2008, 6:59 PM 305850 in reply to 305849

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    also, Texas A&M Riverside Campus in Bryan, TX.

     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Air_Force_Base#Riverside_Campus

    If they're already using it for SCCA events, I wonder if it's a consideration...

    You can see from the satellite views, there's been courses of various sizes all over it.

     from the wiki --

    "The campus is also home to several Texas Transportation Institute (TTI) testing facilities used in the areas of vehicle performance and handling, vehicle-roadway interaction, the durability and efficacy of highway pavements, and the safety of structural systems"


    Carrie
    '89 STS2 CRX Si (Thanks Ian!)
    '88 STS2 CRX Si (it's heeeeee---eeere!)
    '93 ES MR2 in L1 on occaision (Thanks Jerry!)
  •  06-17-2008, 7:33 PM 305856 in reply to 305841

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    scarrie:

    no good satellite view, but how about this former bomber base in oklahoma?

     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardmore_AFB%2C_OK

    it's now a municipal airport and industrial park.

    according to the chamber website, apparently michelin has a facility in ardmore that employs 1800.

     

     

    Ardmore surface is made of concrete and metal shavings that are rusted.  Not good on tires.........

     

    I have someone contacting Nancy about the GM plant in Oklahoma City.  The Mayor seems very open to bringing a lot of people to his city.   Is this site viable in your opinion???

     

    Ann Vogel


    Ann Vogel
    Z16/Z06
  •  06-17-2008, 9:30 PM 305865 in reply to 305834

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    Andy Hollis:
    Awesome. And FJr can run with the ladies, since they'll all need their moms there for them. Big Smile --Andy

    Can we add F Mod, too? Smile


    Matt Murray

    I am perfectly capable of learning from my mistakes. I will surely learn a great deal today.
  •  06-17-2008, 10:19 PM 305875 in reply to 305865

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    mattm:

    Andy Hollis:
    Awesome. And FJr can run with the ladies, since they'll all need their moms there for them. Big Smile --Andy

    Can we add F Mod, too? Smile

    A most excellent idea!  And GP, too.

    Now we have grouped all the representative minorities within Solo which require their own places to play: females, kids, people with obnoxious vehicles, and really old people with really old cars.  I don't think anybody will miss those folks if they run two weeks later.  Well, maybe the females...

    --Andy

     

  •  06-17-2008, 10:59 PM 305879 in reply to 305856

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    bsl77s2000:
    scarrie:

    no good satellite view, but how about this former bomber base in oklahoma?

     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardmore_AFB%2C_OK

    it's now a municipal airport and industrial park.

    according to the chamber website, apparently michelin has a facility in ardmore that employs 1800.

     

     

    Ardmore surface is made of concrete and metal shavings that are rusted.  Not good on tires.........

     

    I have someone contacting Nancy about the GM plant in Oklahoma City.  The Mayor seems very open to bringing a lot of people to his city.   Is this site viable in your opinion???

     

    Ann Vogel

    It doesn't look big enough.  In addition it has an odd shape.  It would be fine for a local event, but unless I'm looking at the wrong site, I seriously doubt this would be a good place.  Light poles too...

    http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/12214

  •  06-17-2008, 11:36 PM 305884 in reply to 305820

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    Just throwing this out to see what responce I would get!

     Whats the size of the skid pad at the Tire Rack in South Bend? If its not big enough I can understand why no one brought it up!

    Is there a possability that the Solo Nationals can be held a some sort of manufactures testing facility? I would assume that a place like that would have a huge skid pad for automobile testing.


    Damon Cuccia


    2008 TLAC ESP Champion
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    2007 TLAC ESP Champion
    2007 TLAC Pro Challenge Top 10


  •  06-17-2008, 11:40 PM 305886 in reply to 305865

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    mattm:

    Andy Hollis:
    Awesome. And FJr can run with the ladies, since they'll all need their moms there for them. Big Smile --Andy

    Can we add F Mod, too? Smile

    F500's?  Hell, yeah.  Solo Vees? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! 


    2002 Mercedes C230k, retired, 2005 Nationals STU DFL

    1969 Beach Solo Vee and 1985 Lynx B Solo Vee
  •  06-17-2008, 11:56 PM 305887 in reply to 305886

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    Interesting, none of the choices for location given in the survey were west of Kansas...

    If Nationals is split up, how about one event for stock and ST cars and one for real race cars...Stick out tongue


    In slow, out fast.
    In fast, out backwards.
  •  06-18-2008, 12:45 AM 305889 in reply to 305887

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    My priority list:

    1 - Site with a smooth surface with decent grip and big enough to set up two real national level courses.  Concrete is not necessary, but an HPT type surface where you have to drive the same line as everyone else is not acceptable.

    2 - Keep the groups together.  I'll give up watching half the people run, but it had better be a PERFECT site.

    3 - Showers.  Not necessarily hotels.  I'll camp somewhere, but bathing in cold mountain streams is not my idea of a brisk start to the morning.  I prefer my 24 oz coffee.

    That's it.  Find #1 and I'll be there.  Find #2 and I won't *** about being there.  Find #3 and other people won't *** about me being there.

     

    Ahh.. who am I kidding?  I'd go if we were in the parking lot of the local 7-11. 


    Dave Heinig

    07 GXP Z0K (Thanks Rob!)
  •  06-18-2008, 9:29 AM 305911 in reply to 305889

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    Howdy,

    I took the survey... I think its good that they're asking the questions, though it seems a little odd there wasn't a survey like this right out of the gate?

    Anyway, on the entry fee question I needed an option for "willing to pay more than $150, if it gets us a good site, and you can keep the banquets & parties"

    On the hotel stuff... If we have an event out in the middle of nowhere, as long as there's room for a bunch of RV's, I think you could make "camping" work pretty well.  RV rental isn't cheap, but then neither are hotels...  I wonder how much it would cost to make a temporary RV park that had one of those trailer truck sized generators, a "sewer service" truck, and a fresh water delivery truck?

    Mark

  •  06-18-2008, 10:10 AM 305917 in reply to 305887

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    mwood:

    Interesting, none of the choices for location given in the survey were west of Kansas...

    If Nationals is split up, how about one event for stock and ST cars and one for real race cars...Stick out tongue

  •  06-18-2008, 10:10 AM 305918 in reply to 305887

    Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?

    mwood:

    Interesting, none of the choices for location given in the survey were west of Kansas...

    If Nationals is split up, how about one event for stock and ST cars and one for real race cars...Stick out tongue

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